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Timothy (Unregistered Guest)
Posted on Friday, April 28, 2006 - 10:56 pm:   

Does anyone have the links to the lompoc year books from the 1960's?
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FrenchFry (Unregistered Guest)
Posted on Saturday, April 29, 2006 - 2:14 am:   

http://members.aol.com/Lompoc1963/yearbook.htm
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Vallejo_dave
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Posted on Saturday, April 29, 2006 - 6:39 am:   

http://hometown.aol.com/__121b_/7v8kicE6ThC7QSiVow Zmdrgo3S43J+/
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Timothy (Unregistered Guest)
Posted on Saturday, April 29, 2006 - 10:01 am:   

Thank you.
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monkeybear (Unregistered Guest)
Posted on Saturday, April 29, 2006 - 10:52 am:   

Look at the student by the last name of Carr.
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Douglas_oswell
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Posted on Saturday, April 29, 2006 - 11:03 am:   

Very significant.
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Anonymous
Posted on Saturday, April 29, 2006 - 11:21 am:   

Check out last name Edman,right next to Edwards!
Were their lockers asigned alphabetically ? Hmmm..
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Timothy (Unregistered Guest)
Posted on Saturday, April 29, 2006 - 11:22 am:   

Why does Carr stick out?
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Sugar Shack (Unregistered Guest)
Posted on Saturday, April 29, 2006 - 1:51 pm:   

I wonder what the discripters are on that Carr fella? Does anyone know? 5'8"-5'9" 200lb. maybe?
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Rachel
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Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Saturday, April 29, 2006 - 2:16 pm:   

Anyone have an opinion on R. Hayes?
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Timothy (Unregistered Guest)
Posted on Saturday, April 29, 2006 - 5:00 pm:   

Robert Hayes? Because of the RH thing at Riverside?

Nope, my money is on Michael Garder. Remember on thing that "Z" said. He claimed that he didn't look the way he looked...when he did his thing.

Michael Garder is on the list of lost from lompoc. I am in no way accusing him of being "Z" but out of all the people he sticks out. To me the facial feature outlines match closely to that of the sketch of "Z" He looks older because of his hair line....
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Vallejo_dave
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Posted on Saturday, April 29, 2006 - 5:18 pm:   

I have an opinion on RH.
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Timothy (Unregistered Guest)
Posted on Saturday, April 29, 2006 - 6:34 pm:   

Please tell me more about this. I am newer to this site, but not new to Zodiac stuff.
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monkeybear (Unregistered Guest)
Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 9:23 am:   

There is something about Carr, and well he's a dead ringer for the later SF composit (minus a few years). The way the glasses sit on his face, the chin, eyes, hair. Hmmm.
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monkeybear (Unregistered Guest)
Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 10:12 am:   

Oh & by the way, the information at the website shows that both Carr & Garder have "lost" information.
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Timothy (Unregistered Guest)
Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 10:13 am:   

I still stick with Gardner. Remember that "Z" may have used glasses and they might have been to throw off those around him. Not that you could believe a word that a murderer wrote, but that he claimed he didn't look like the sketch...only when he did his thing. I take this as meaning he didn't normally wear glasses. Also Gardner has a look about him. The eyes, they never lie.
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monkeybear (Unregistered Guest)
Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 10:25 am:   

I'll do some research, this Carr fellow is interesting. You know there was a production manager on the movie "Suspect Zero" who's name was Ronald Carr. He even did production work in the 1960's, worth looking into. Production? Film? I wonder if there is sample of his handwrting?
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Al Bleu (Unregistered Guest)
Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 10:57 am:   

Monkeybear;---When you're researching see if Carr or Gardner went to RCC or lived in Riverside after highschool.---Also you might check if a good team of Remote Viewers have ever focused on where or who Z is or if he's still alive?---Russel Targ at Stanford would be good ,--or Ed Danes;---remote viewing may offer some results and I've never seen it discussed?---Maybe focus on where remaining fragment of Stine's shirt is!
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monkeybear (Unregistered Guest)
Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 11:30 am:   

Remote Viewing? Please explain...I'll will tell you this, it seems that everything has been dicussd to hell and back. Maybe the answer is right under our noses??
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Anonymous
Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 11:35 am:   

There is a Mike Gardner who is part of the Riverside police commision. 33 year resident of the area. Doubt it could be the same person, because this person is part of so many charity groups and from the information provided by the city a stand up guy. So if this Mike Gardner and the Mike Gardner are one in the same, it would have to be a case like Ted Bundy.
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Al Bleu (Unregistered Guest)
Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 11:45 am:   

Remote viewing is and was used alot by the military during the cold war,etc;----it's beyond just all the physic stuff,---and is related to the nonlocality thereoies in physics I believe. For instance a teaam of or a good remote viewer can discribe what's going on --on the other side of the planet in present time;--can sometimes fortell future events;---- this has been well discribed on late night talk shows,etc;-----but as you say you never know and it would be worth a try just to cover all the bases!
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Rachel
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Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 8:07 pm:   

Care to share, Vallejo_dave?
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monkeybear (Unregistered Guest)
Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 8:42 pm:   

I see...well I must say, & I may get booted from here...but has a psychic ever explored this case?
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Fredcasa
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Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 9:11 pm:   

Robert Hayes has been my "Person of interest" for over a year..IMO he looks just like "Emmett" Tom's suspect, he is on the "Lost" list..still trying to contact a classmate of his to find out more..
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Tom_voigt
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Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 9:11 pm:   

This thread is supposed to be about the Lompoq yearbook...
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Timothy (Unregistered Guest)
Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 6:41 am:   

Does anyone know how to get a hold of other years of the lompoc yearbook? I would be interested in seeing prior years like 1962 and 1961.
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Vallejo_dave
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Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 7:09 am:   

You might contact used book stores in the Lompoc, Santa Barbara area. They may have some for sale. Or email the person at the web site.

Fred, I too think RH looks like "Emmett".
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Howard_davis
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Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 12:10 pm:   

Tim,
Contact the school library and the historical society.They are very helpful.

See my site:www.zodiacmurders.com concerning the Lompoc case.
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Timothy (Unregistered Guest)
Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 3:48 pm:   

Thank you Howard, it's greatly appreciated.
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monkeybear (Unregistered Guest)
Posted on Thursday, May 04, 2006 - 9:47 pm:   

Carr is a dead ringer...
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Anonymous
Posted on Friday, May 05, 2006 - 7:59 am:   

Monkeybear, everyone is going for the easy fix. The ones with glasses. My bet is "Z" didn't even wear glasses.
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monkeybear (Unregistered Guest)
Posted on Friday, May 05, 2006 - 9:41 am:   

Yes but his face, eyes & chin are very simlar. Looks like a younger version of the composit. I did a little research and a Ronald Carr was a movie production manager in the 1960's & later was on the crew for the movie "Suspect Zero" which was about the Sonoma murders during the 1970's. Interesting at the very least.
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Anonymous
Posted on Friday, May 05, 2006 - 1:51 pm:   

True, interesting but not positive proof.
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lebowski (Unregistered Guest)
Posted on Tuesday, May 16, 2006 - 8:00 am:   

Terry Elder looks a little too serious.
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Timothy (Unregistered Guest)
Posted on Thursday, May 18, 2006 - 11:05 am:   

The Michael Gardner spoke of, that is a 33 year resident of Riverside, does not match the Gardner from Lompoc. Their middle initial is different. Again, I am no saying the Lompoc Gardner is "Z", only he is the one who stand out to me by the eyes. Keep in mind, eyes never lie....but the also don't mean someone is a killer.
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Fredcasa
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Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 1:18 pm:   

Mike it may interest you, and others, that I'm in touch with a classmate of Robert D. and Linda E., the victims of the Lompoc High killings--thanks to Tom's efforts. This classmate is now a psychologist and police officer..recently visited the murder site, and still cares very much about "Bobby and Linda"..I asked him last night if I can post his letters here (or Tom) so am awaiting his reply..If not I will post highlights. Last Sunday was the 43rd anniversary of their murders..He's told me so much about them that I feel I knew them..so sad. To us they are just names for the most part..
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Hallowtim
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Posted on Tuesday, June 20, 2006 - 7:27 am:   

Fred, does the classmate have any 'person of interest?"

I can't believe it has been 43 years!
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Anonymous
Posted on Wednesday, June 21, 2006 - 4:22 pm:   

A family member was the main suspect back in 1963. Some of this person's background fits the Z profile, but didn't sound like they were bright enough to be Z.
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Fredcasa
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Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 9:58 am:   

Tim sorry i didn't see your post before today--my contact was 2 years behind Robert and Linda..knew Robert from the football team. The way he describes Robert is as a very nice, caring man, a BMOC, and said he and Linda went together forever. As far as he knows no one was a rival for Linda, and he can't think of any classmates who were suspected. I asked him about Robert Hayes and he looked him up--he knew the face but nothing else about him.
My guy has been interested in the case for many years and just revisited the sight of the murders. His mother knows the Domingo's family. In fact he and Tom have been in touch for quite a while and Tom was nice enough to put us in touch. Interestingly he is a psychiatrist and police officer..I asked him if these events shaped his life and he said they did.
43 years ago two very nice "kids" were murdered just before they started their adult lives.I hope we catch the guy who did this--IMO it was a young Z.
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Fredcasa
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Posted on Monday, June 26, 2006 - 10:09 am:   

I wouldn't rule rule out Ronald Carr either..just looked at his picture, and it could be close to the composites--also he is on the "lost" page of the web site.
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Davidmm
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Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 1:40 pm:   

Anyone have any luck tracking down these guys??
I have to agree, Carr is a dead ringer for the composites.
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Breakout
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Registered: 7-2006
Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 6:04 am:   

I'd like to see pics of the faculty at all associated schools (Lompoc, Riverside CC, Hogan, etc.)
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Breakout
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Posted on Thursday, December 14, 2006 - 6:04 am:   

and staff...
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Warren
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Posted on Friday, December 15, 2006 - 7:49 am:   

But weren't they killed on a Senior Skip Day; i.e. the staff and faculty would still be at work?
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Davidmm
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Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Friday, December 15, 2006 - 8:27 am:   

Excellent point, Warren. The Senior skip day also limits the possibility of younger students being free to roam. Also, this destination was planned, not just random, and other students knew about it. They also knew they were going alone.
Circumstantial evidence of a classmate's involvement, at best, but, hey, it's been 40 years!
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Breakout
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Posted on Friday, December 15, 2006 - 11:08 am:   

Yes Warren, but they do have sick days. I'm just trying to keep an open mind.
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Nachtsider
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Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 5:40 pm:   

To say that the information that you people have uncovered in the Lompoc High yearbook is nothing short of astounding would be a gross understatement, and I cannot commend your efforts highly enough. Fredcasa, you simply must get your contact to dredge up more information on Ronald Carr - utilizing the aid of other former Lompoc High students if necessary. This new lead should definitely be explored as exhaustively as possible.
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Nachtsider
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Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 8:27 pm:   

To everyone - a search I conducted not two minutes ago at the Alumni Search Engine lead me to discover that full particulars for Ronald Clifton Carr of Lompoc Senior High School's Class of '63 (including address, phone number, e-mail address and more) are in the site's database. Frustratingly, I was unable to view the information in question as I am neither a member of AlumniSearch.com nor one who possesses the means to register. If anybody could offer me assistance with regards to this venture, I would be infinitely obliged to you.
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Tommyt
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Posted on Wednesday, December 20, 2006 - 3:00 am:   

Nachsider, good work. If anybody can gain access to this, please do.

Nobody mentioned this, but you also have to like the ear comparison on your choicees, mainly, Carr.


I would also like to see what Kevin thinks about people in this yearbook.
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Kevin
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Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Thursday, December 21, 2006 - 6:34 pm:   

When I re-did the composite I had no idea this thread was going on, at least I wasn't following it. Now that I look at it, I will say, this Carr dude definitely looks *a lot* like my composite, wow. As we know by now, we must be very careful just because someone looks similar though. After reading Allen's last will I almost felt sorry for the guy.

I really like the yearbook idea though. Having done this kind of research before, I found the best place to find these yearbooks is the city library. Usually they're locked up and you have to ask permission to see them one at a time. If it's a Catholic high school, you usually have to go to the school.
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Tommyt
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Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 11:40 am:   

Wow Kevin, I had a feeling you would like what you saw in this topic. What did you think about other people in the yearbook?
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Kevin
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Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 5:04 pm:   

I didn't look through the whole thing. I don't think at this stage one should start considering someone based on looks first. If you have something else on a suspect, then yeah, at that time consider looks. The truth is, there must have been a zillion guys that matched the Zodiac composite at the time.
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Tommyt
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Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 5:19 pm:   

I absolutely agree with everything you said Kevin. But it is interesting none-the-less. Thats also why I asked what you thought of other people in the yearbook.
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Vallejo_dave
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Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 7:00 pm:   

I have another suspect in the yearbook, and I think Fred Casa can tell you about him, that is if Fred is still alive.
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Fredcasa
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Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 7:27 pm:   

Hi Dave--still alive after all these years-lol
Iīm really impressed with the composite drawings executed by Kevin. My suspect has been Robert Hayes..I think he looks like some of the composite drawings..that said Ronald Carr sure looks like kevins drawings..Í will ask my policeman connection, classmate of Robert D. and ask him about Carr..
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Kevin
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Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 9:35 pm:   

I'll look at them all, I agree it's interesting. I'd rather be looking at Vallejo or Riverside yearbooks from about the same time period though. I'd be surprised if it hasn't been done already.
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Kevin
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Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 10:11 pm:   

I looked at them all, the Ronald Carr guy looks the closest to what I imagine Z would look like. The Hayes guy, I think he's too thin. Anyway, seems like it would be A LOT to assume the killer was a classmate, but I suppose anything is possible.
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Fredcasa
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Posted on Saturday, December 23, 2006 - 10:55 am:   

Kevin nice job--I donīt think its a big assumption to believe the killer was a classmate..It seems to be a crime of passion, it happened on senior skip day, and very well could be the first crime by Z..If so it may be the best and last chance to catch him..I emailed John, the friend of Robertīs he will try and get some info on Ronald Carr. He is very interested in this and hopes it can be solved..He also believes it could be Z.
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Nachtsider
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Posted on Saturday, December 23, 2006 - 7:32 pm:   

Fredcasa, the help that you and your source are providing is invaluable. Being one with first-hand knowledge of Lompoc Senior High and its students circa 1963, John could provide us with an in-depth study of Carr, with details such as his antecedents, personality, complete physical description, relationship with the victims and what became of him post-high school. I have always been of the opinion that the murder of Robert and Linda was the earliest Zodiac homicide of them all, and fully concur with the both of you that this angle of approach may very well prove to be the big break that so many have sought for over forty years.

Some research I performed on Robert Hayes gleaned me the knowledge that he may not be as lost as everyone has formerly believed - I have found what appears to be his e-mail address at the Lompoc High School Alumni Association website, which you might be interested in checking out. I am curious as to why you and Dave consider him a person of interest - of course, this is something that you do not have to discuss here if you do not wish to.

Kevin, your artistic renditions of Zodiac are amazing, to say the very least. Carr is the closest match I have ever seen to both your composites and those prepared by law-enforcement at the time. I firmly agree with your statement that Hayes appears too thin - witnesses to Zodiac's crimes consistently described the killer as being larger or heavier than average, not even slim or middle-sized.

Tommyt, thank you for acknowledging my findings. It is my earnest wish to offer you people as much aid as I can, and I sincerely hope that the information in the aforementioned site's database can be followed up on - it could very well contain the answers to many of our questions.

An eerie bit of zynchronicity - notice how Carr's initials (R.C.C.) match up with those of Riverside Community College. If we could only place him there at or around the time of Cheri Jo Bates' murder...
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Fredcasa
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Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 6:40 am:   

Nacht--notice how Robert Hayes initials RH match the Riverside poem.. I found him by looking at every picture on the yearbook site, of the missing classmates,..and matching him to Tomīs suspect, Emmett..You can find his pic here under new suspects drawings..I think they look exactly alike--then Tom informed me Emmett is dead..I found Robert in the white pages through MSN so know he is alive. I thought if he looked like emmett he looked like Z. However Carr is the spitting image of Kevins drawings..I have emailed my friend John and made him aware of this stuff..John was a friend of Robert/Linda back in high school and is very interested in this case..he told me he will ask his brothers if they knew Carr, as well as another classmate. He is a police officer and will try and check on if Carr has any kind of prison record. I checked as well but Ca. has changed its policy and that isnīt available any longer online-Tom hooked me up with John a year or two ago. John returned to the murder site this year..his mother is still friends with Roberts mother.My original theory was that if they were killed by a classmate he would be on the missing list of the high school website. Carr certainly fits the bill..I will tell John about the alumni search engine link..perhaps he can follow that up.
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Fredcasa
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Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 6:51 am:   

One other thing I thought of is seating in the classrooms..If the seating was done by last names, its likely that Linda would be seated near Carr..across from each other in the next row. I remember 4 of us becoming fast friends in high school, An F a G a H and a J..last names and we sat in two rows as a square. Linda and Robert dated a long time, throughout high school..perhaps someone had a crush and was angry about their happiness. It seems Z hated to see happy couples..another possible link from this murder-
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Fredcasa
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Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 7:05 am:   

I received an email from John..he is a member of the Lompoc alumni assoc. and checked out Carr..no info except he graduated in ī63--
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Nachtsider
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Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Friday, January 05, 2007 - 2:15 am:   

Fredcasa, although it is a thousand pities that your enquiries have yielded nothing on Ronald Carr, I assure you that this is not due to any failing on your part, and warmly thank you and John for all the cooperation you have offered thus far. I also very much appreciate all you have shared with regards to Robert Hayes, whom your findings certainly do point to him being someone whom we should take a further look at.

I am fully aware of Tom's new suspect, Emmett, as well as his death shortly after Zodiac's last letter of 1974 was mailed - he has always piqued my interest to a great degree ever since he was featured in an update a while back, but I must respect Tom's intent to keep evidence and facts under wraps for the time being so as to preserve the integrity of any ongoing investigation into his suspect. Emmett's decades-ago demise and your testimonial notwithstanding, I am firmly convinced that he and Hayes are different people - their appearances, while alike on the face of it (no pun intended), are actually different in small ways.

Yesterday evening saw me tapping into a new source of information, namely a database of nationwide court records. My search of the site indicates that full particulars of fifty-odd individuals named Ronald Carr are on file, and that only one of these men could possibly be our person of interest (the others are either too young, too old or have the wrong middle initial). His age - sixty-two - seems an accurate enough match, and he currently resides in Texarkana, Arizona. Unfortunately, all further data on him requires an paid account to access. To say that the frustration I feel at not being able to register and delve further into both this site and the Alumni Search Engine is immense would be a tremendous understatement - I am confident that we may obtain answers to many of our questions within their archives. I strongly urge that any member of this board with the neccessary resources should check these annals as soon as possible.

I do wonder if Detective William Baker, who worked on Robert and Linda's murder all those years ago, is aware of all these developments. He is a highly capable professional of great integrity, and his considerable expertise and intimate knowledge of the case would be a most welcome asset to our cause.

Only one word of epilogue - in another chilling zynchronicity, the abovmentioned city of Texarkana is precisely where a serial killer whom I have long believed to be the inspiration for Zodiac's lethal career embarked upon his brutal rampage circa 1946. This whole business is growing freakier by the minute...
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Davidmm
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Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Friday, January 05, 2007 - 11:22 am:   

I'm sure it's just another case of Zynchronicity, but I typed in "Ronald Carr" into an image-search database and this came up. Not only does this guy look the right age, but my first thought was that he looks like ALA!

http://www.oosinet.com/about/about.htm

He's not in Texarkana (which is indeed a freaky connection, Nachtsider) and there's nothing on the web site to indicate his middle name.

Nachtsider, you said you'd searched court records. Would those be broader or more limited than the "people search" engines, that includes info on people who've never had a run-in with the law?
After all, Z managed to avoid the law through some fairly busy times, and I can imagine him maintaining a clean record.
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Fredcasa
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Posted on Tuesday, January 09, 2007 - 7:54 am:   

My guy John has searched in vain for any info on Mr. Carr..He asked classmates, the head of the alumni assoc. his mother and friends in the area..none remember Carr, his family, or anything about him..so it seems Carr was a loner, whom no one remembers.. he stays a mystery at the moment.
Nacht//I believe it was texarkana Texas where the phantom murders occured? You bring a lot of new energy to this board so keep it up. John is returning to the area next month and will take a lot of video and high res pictures of the crime scene for Tom to use here..He also plans to look into finding more info on Carr. BTW he doesn't believe it was a classmate who did the killing..he and I disagree about this. If he is right then we will never solve this crime.
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Tommyt
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Posted on Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 5:27 am:   

Fredcasa,

In re: to your friend John, is there anyway he can get a DOB or SS?
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Davidmm
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Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 10:10 am:   

Jumping to the next obvious question, can anyone check to see if Ron(ald) Carr was ever a student at Riverside? I know other people have looked for ALA, etc, so the class lists are out there somewhere.
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Davidmm
Username: Davidmm

Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 10:29 am:   

This may be too "Scooby Doo" of me, but, here goes...
I think it's interesting that the individual who, perhaps, just shares an unfortunate resemblance to Zodiac's wanted poster, is named "Carr," a common word unusually spelled with a double-letter.

Anyone else noticed that Zodiac frequently, and deliberately, used a lot of unnecessary double letters? I know that people have suspected that he was dislexic, but, come-on, people, who doesn't know how to spell Christmas?
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Fredcasa
Username: Fredcasa

Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 8:17 am:   

I don't think John can get info through his lawman status..though he will talk to some local police when he returns to the area next month..I'll also urge him to contact Mr. Baker.DOB should be easy to figure out..not sure about SS/ I think Carr with two R's is pretty common..I've known several people with that name.
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Tommyt
Username: Tommyt

Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 4:09 pm:   

Good point Davidmm. As is believed, Z might have been leaving us clues to his identity with the misspellings.

Fredcasa

There should not be a problem with your friend tracking down a DOB, which is all that is usually needed when conducting database searches; however, just last year, PI databases have been instructed, via new laws, to no longer provide SS #'s on people; therefore, he could get in trouble if he furnishes that info to you.
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Fredcasa
Username: Fredcasa

Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 8:18 am:   

John will be back in the area next month..in addition to shooting some video of the murder scene he will try and get more info on Mr. Carr..Either he will post it or I will pass it on.

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