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Tom_voigt
Username: Tom_voigt
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, January 20, 2007 - 7:50 pm: | |
Continued from here. |
   
Kevin
Username: Kevin
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, January 20, 2007 - 9:28 pm: | |
The value of Kelleher's book is that it is laid out chronologically - one is able to see how Z reacted after each of his crimes and also to the media. You get a really good idea of why Z responded as he did and how it both escalated and finally drew to a close. It basically puts to bed the entire sexual sadist and other nonsense that the yellow book and others throughout the years have put out. For me, it made the whole Riverside connection a lot clearer. I agree with Stew's analysis, but think that overall this is probably the best, well rounded, and accurate book on the subject. |
   
Hawk
Username: Hawk
Registered: 5-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, January 20, 2007 - 10:45 pm: | |
Kaufman states on his website: "Zodiac was said to have been driving a white Renault Caravelle, a car similar in appearance to the Corvair". Who said that? Mageau didn't. "Zodiac was seen in an ice blue two door Chevy Impala at Lake Berryessa the day of the attack". I can only assume that he is referring to the guy that was watching the girls sunbathing on the beach? There is no way in hell he can confirm that that person was Zodiac. Nor can anyone else for that matter. |
   
Joanne_in_mb
Username: Joanne_in_mb
Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 4:12 am: | |
Hawk, I don't think Dennis Kaufman is trying to "confirm" that the person watching the girls sunbathing on the beach (whose composite bears a striking resemblance to Jack Tarrance's biological son) was Zodiac. The sunbathing girls stated the guy watching them had an ice blue Impala; Jack Tarrance owned an ice blue Impala at that time. This is just one piece (among many pieces) of circumstantial evidence that connects Tarrance to the Zodiac. And when all is said and done, isn't circumstantial evidence all that connects ANY of the suspects to Zodiac? http://www.JoAnnesPage.net |
   
Yarbchris
Username: Yarbchris
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 5:29 am: | |
The Chevrolet Impala was the best-selling automobile in the United States. Its peak sales volume in 1965 (over one million sold) is a record. When I was a kid, we had an ice blue '63 Impala, just like the one in DK's photo, only in much better condition. I came across the car a few years ago; It is now somebody's low rider. Compare blue Impalas to Chevy pick-up trucks today; Same model, same color, so what? The only person to actually see Zodiac at lake Berryessa didn't see him in a car. I read Kaufman's website without bias. It was interesting. I figured Dennis' strange behavior (detailed on this site) might have been due to the fact that he was possibly raised by a serial killer. I felt there might have been something to his story. I then had an opportunity to listen to his interview. He had 2 hours to make his case. Instead, he distorted the truth and insulted the intelligence of anyone listening. Like Graysmith, but with even less subtlety, Kaufman has a way of maneuvering the actual facts to create what amounts to fiction. If a person had convincing evidence would this be necessary? I had some simple questions for Kaufman when he had the recent radio interview. He told me he had no control over the questions asked and apologized for them not being answered. The apology came after I had already sent him the questions again for a second opportunity for him to answer. He still has not answered. My questions weren't that tough, I think he's even hinted at the answers on his site and in the interview. A direct response would help separate the chaff. For those interested, here are my questions: 1. Did you ever ask Jack directly if he was the Zodiac? If so, what was his response? 2. Did you follow up on the taped interview that you planned for your stepfather's stories? If so, where can one listen to the audio or read a transcript? 3. Can you definitely place Jack Tarrance at any of the murder locales? Receipts, canceled checks, other dated documents indicating a location would be good. 4. Did Jack have anything in his possession that may have belonged to any of the Zodiac victims? Did he keep clippings regarding any of the attacks or letters? These are some simple questions in hope of direct answers. There are a lot more, but I figured these would be a start. Dennis Kaufman dances around these issues, but never really says anything with foundation. I know for a fact that Dennis monitors these discussions and has my email address. Perhaps he'll answer with something besides anger and spite. I doubt it. |
   
Tom_voigt
Username: Tom_voigt
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 11:10 am: | |
No witness ever claimed Zodiac drove a Renault. However, in the section of the yellow Zodiac book devoted to suspect Rick Marshall, it's noted the suspect once drove a Renault, a vehicle of similar design to a Chevy. Once again, Dennis was quite confused. |
   
Hawk
Username: Hawk
Registered: 5-2006
| | Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 5:42 pm: | |
Jo, if Kaufman would have said: "There was a suspicious guy seen driving an ice blue Impala at Lake Berryessa the day of the attack", then that would be a fair statement. But saying: "Zodiac was seen in an ice blue Chevy Impala" is making it sound like it's fact, and thats not fair especially to a novice on the subject. Thats what P's me off. |
   
Hawk
Username: Hawk
Registered: 5-2006
| | Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 5:55 pm: | |
Tom, thanks for the info on the Renault, I was wondering where that came from. I confess, I never read any of Graysmith's books. I prefer to stick with the real Facts that you present on your website. |
   
Howard_davis
Username: Howard_davis
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 6:57 pm: | |
There were two main cars seen at LB 9/27/69.The Chevy and the car that pulled up behind the Ghia which police firmly believed belonged to the killer. The inside wheel to wheel measurments(which I have given in past posts)of the car behind the Ghia would not match that of the A&W Chevy. I know and have consulted with an automotive engineer(and from a reply from General Motors) ) and he agrees.They were two DIFFERENT cars! The implication could possibly be that the man seen in the Chevy by the three female students was not the perp as the Z was driving a different automobile as per the wheel to wheel distances of both cars.FYI |
   
Scott_n
Username: Scott_n
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 10:11 pm: | |
Howard I know you've stated this before. My question is: what DO the measurements of the car behind Hartnell's Ghia indicate about the size of the car?. Bigger or smaller than the Impala purportedly at the A&W? |
   
Joanne_in_mb
Username: Joanne_in_mb
Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 4:30 am: | |
Hawk, I'm sorry you're pissed off because Kaufman left out the word "suspect". Big deal. I don't think he was trying to deceive anyone. Rather than nitpick on small errors in his narrative, why not look at the circumstantial evidence he's presented on his site which might be of value. http://www.JoAnnesPage.net |
   
Ed_neil
Username: Ed_neil
Registered: 5-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 4:12 pm: | |
Joanne, Kaufman is being deliberately deceitful when he claims Jack murdered his mother. It did not happen that way, she died of purely natural causes. He's also purposely distorted the facts, such as claiming that Jack used the word "radian," then produces a scan of a note that Jack allegedly wrote that actually has the word "radius." Then he uses the radian hint based on Gareth Penn's work (!!!) and draws radians radiating from Mt D, then plots what he claims are the locations of unsolved murders, but cannot be bothered to name even one of them or provide sources of information for these alleged crimes that others can check and verify as being truthful and accurate. Sorry to disagree, but Kaufman is a conman out to make a buck off the stepfather he hates and the Z crimes, and is purposely attempting to deceive those unfamiliar with the case in much the same manner as Yellow Book and Penn. The fact that he attempted to sell a piece of what he claimed was Paul Stine's shirt to Tom for $50,000 speaks volumes about Kaufman's true character... |
   
Exiled
Username: Exiled
Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 8:46 pm: | |
As a lot of you know(and for those who do not), I attempted to work with Dennis Kaufman to help him resolve the issue once and for all; was his step-father, Jack Tarrance, The Zodiac?. I agreed to help him with the understanding that he would/could accept that Jack was not the Zodiac if thats indeed what the evidence proved. He claimed that he could and that he was just seeking closure so he could resume his life. As time went on, I found it increasingly difficult to work with Kaufman, he would routinely change or delay plans that would have shed light on some of the important issues of his claims. Also, his strange behaviour and his lack of overall cooperation made it nearly impossible to corroborate any of his "facts". After a careful examination of Kaufman's story, I have come to the conclusion that even if Jack Tarrance was the infamous fugitive(and I have concluded that he is not) , Kaufman's credibility issues would almost assuredly have been the deciding factor as to whether or not the public(much less LE) would have accepted his findings(unless the evidence was too overwhelming to deny). I have nothing personal against Kaufman and I'm not on this board to start a smear-campaign against him or anyone else. He has a right to believe what he wants, but I(and everyone else on this board) have the right to contest his(or anyone's) "facts", theories, and overall conclusions about this case. It is my belief that Dennis Kaufman will never accept anything that can absolutely dispute his claims, no matter how factual the evidence may be. Inspite of all of the inconsistancies and the credibility issues, this is Dennis' story and he's sticking to it. |
   
Vscantu
Username: Vscantu
Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 9:13 pm: | |
Exiled: Perfect statement on the issue of Jack Tarrance being Zodiac. You are as close or closer than anyone else besides Dennis to the evidence. You wrote: "It is my belief that Dennis Kaufman will never accept anything that can absolutely dispute his claims, no matter how factual the evidence may be." One big HOWEVER: Your above quote, unfortunately, is true of anyone who has a 'pet suspect', not just Dennis. If we have a "my suspect", as many of us do, then we also will never accept as fact any evidence which rules him out. I've seen it time & time again. The biggest example is those who believe- or used to believe in Allen as The Zodiac. There were mountains of evidence that ruled him out along the way. But his believers simply refused to accept it, or explained it away with sometimes outlandish logic. Gradually, as the DNA from the letters ruled him out & was splashed all over national TV, his 'supporters' began to finally dwindle. But early on they even tried to explain away the foreign DNA on the Zodiac stamps by suggesting that Allen had kids lick the stamps- even tho' DNA testing wouldn't exist for another 10-15 years! So even though I don't care for his character, and question his motives, in a sense I don't think Dennis "sticking to his guns" about his stepfather is all that unusual. |
   
Ed_neil
Username: Ed_neil
Registered: 5-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 9:45 pm: | |
Exiled, you make it sound like Kaufman truly believes his stepfather was Z. You know him personally, I don't, so you obviously have a much different take on things. However, based on his wild claims, selective use of evidence, dependence on discredited researchers, lack of corroborating information, distortion of the facts, outright fabrication and his attempt to profit by selling what he claimed to be evidence in a murder investigation... well, it looks to me like he doesn't actually believe the story he's trying to sell others, it looks like he's nothing more than a conman who had serious issues with his stepfather, so serious in fact that he's cooked up a pretty poor story that does not stand up under informed scrutiny in order to accuse him of being a serial killer. He also lives in a fantasy world if he believes the FBI considers Jack "viable," because as we all know, assuming the FBI even checked Jack out (which I personally find doubtful), they would have ruled him out based on his writing and fingerprints, the same prints law enforcement had enough faith in to eliminate thousands of suspects. Kaufman's claim that they couldn't compare Jack's prints because SFPD refused to cooperate is an outright lie, since a copy of the prints from Stine's cab can be found on this very message board. And if Tom can post a copy, then there is no doubt that the FBI has them too, checked Jack's prints and eliminated him (if they couldn't, he would have been arrested, don't you think?). Based on the facts as I understand them, I don't believe Kaufman truly believes his stepfather was Z; I think he just has an axe to grind and is looking for a way to make money as well. |
   
Exiled
Username: Exiled
Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 11:06 pm: | |
I dont know if Kaufman actually believes that his step-father is The Zodiac or if he just made all of this up. He might have initially had some suspicsions that Jack could have been the fugitive. Thus far, it is my belief that Kaufman(whether he ever suspected Jack was Zodiac or not) already had a personal interest in the case(was probably fascinated with serial killers in general) and had at least a cursory knowledge of the basic facts. My gut-feeling is that Dennis molded Tarrance into the role of Zodiac, not only for profit(if at all), but for something that he so obviously and desparately needs; noteriety and the feeling of acceptance. Who ever Jack Tarrance really was, onething is for certain, he was not a very good person and he was even worse at being a role-model/father-figure to Dennis. I think that Ed may be right about Kaufman Having "an axe to grind" with Tarrance. He certainly speaks of his deceased step-father with absolute disdain. Vscantu, of course there is nothing unusual about Dennis(or anyone else for that matter) "sticking to his guns", I never meant to imply that there was. As I have stated in many prior posts, it is nearly impossible to change the jaded minds of people who have far too much to lose by letting go of their "pet suspects" and the agendas spawned by thier overly biased beliefs. |
   
Kevin
Username: Kevin
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 1:37 am: | |
When Dennis first started with this, I was the one who put up his images on a site I had. He did have some interesting connections. His step-dad seemed to be in all the right places, etc. The photo he has of Jack holding a shot gun to some lady's head was rather troubling. Regardless, after looking at a zillion samples of Jack's handwriting even I could conclude that they didn't match up at all. The small letter "a" was never the same. Only recently did he supposedly produce one sample where Jack wrote it like Z, but at this stage I have my doubts it's even real. One small thing is all it takes to blow a pet suspect out of the water - best to accept it and move on. |
   
Ed_neil
Username: Ed_neil
Registered: 5-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 2:23 am: | |
Kevin, no matter how good a case is against someone, all one needs is one piece of solid evidence to eliminate said suspect, and the mountain of evidence against him turns out to be circumstantial and totally meaningless. For instance, the case against Hunter depends on him living at 3799 Washington Street when Stine was murdered, having moved in on 10-4-1969. I proved Hunter couldn't have lived there at that time, since he bought the house in May 1970, the Academy of Sciences couldn't have leased it to him in October 1969, 7½ before he signed the papers since they didn't own the house until 12-4-1969, and a man named Victor Schiantarelli is listed as living there in 1969. Not only that, the source for the story that Hunter moved into that house before Stine was murdered turns out to have been a janitor at the El Cortez Hotel in downtown SF and was not a neighbor of Hunter's (so he neither worked with or lived near him), so it was obviously fabricated to make Hunter look guilty. Unfortunately, the person who is pushing this "theory" has believed it for some 34 years now and is unwilling to accept the fact that Hunter is not Z, much like Kaufman is unwilling to stop pushing his Zodiac Jack theory. Belief overrides the facts and common sense all too often. |
   
Hawk
Username: Hawk
Registered: 5-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 3:05 am: | |
Jo, sweetheart, I urge you to look at Kaufman's website again and look approximately 3/4 down the page, there you can click on a pic that states: "Here is a photo of Jack pointing a shotgun at someone in 1971. Look at the pic of Jack and notice his looks and particularly his dimentions. (BTW, thats a kids toy gun he is holding and not a real shotgun. Look at the size of the stock). Now, right below that is another clickable pic which states: Here is a photo of Jack in 1974. If these two photo's are of the same person, I will gladly kiss your ass. LOL. |
   
Douglas_oswell
Username: Douglas_oswell
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 3:57 am: | |
He might have developed a bad case of HIV, or galloping consumption in the interval. The hairline looks the same. |
   
Joanne_in_mb
Username: Joanne_in_mb
Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 4:19 am: | |
Hawk, Kindly keep your lips off my derriere, thank you. LoL. Whether or not the gun is real, that photo is still troubling. What do you make of the court document proving Jack was in Pleasanton on the day a Zodiac letter was postmarked from that town? http://www.JoAnnesPage.net |
   
Exiled
Username: Exiled
Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 5:48 am: | |
Joanne, everything Dennis has on Jack is purely circumstantial(please read my earlier posts) and when pressed, he(Kaufman) will go out his way to avoid a specific question pertaining to anything substantial. I gave Dennis every chance to prove vital info and he never came through. For whatever reason, he(seemingly) wants no part of someone(in this case myself) corroborating his so-called evidence against Tarrance. The one thing that he has in his favor, is that the composites and sketchings strongly resemble Jack(SF composite, Sonoma rendetion) and Jacks son Denny(LB composite). But that can be just a miraculous coinsidence. Until Dennis Kaufman comes forward and allows someone to corroborate his "evidence", he will always be second-guessed because of his credibility issues and thus, no one will take him serious. |
   
Douglas_oswell
Username: Douglas_oswell
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 6:15 am: | |
The name on that court record was Jack Torrance. An anomaly? |
   
Exiled
Username: Exiled
Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 6:20 am: | |
Yes, that is a simple typo.....I've also seen it as T-e-rrance on cancelled pay checks. |
   
Vscantu
Username: Vscantu
Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 12:09 pm: | |
I've got solid evidence & photos of Jack Tarrance in a pink Tutu taking ballet lessons in Rhode Island on the day of the Lake Berryessa murders. There. Does that finally put this thread to rest? |
   
Tom_voigt
Username: Tom_voigt
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 12:19 pm: | |
1) There is no postmark on the March 22, 1971 unauthenticated "Peek through the Pines" postcard. 2) The Zodiac's Pleasanton letter was mailed March 13, 1971. 3) Dennis is an idiot. |
   
Ed_neil
Username: Ed_neil
Registered: 5-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 12:51 pm: | |
Joanne, if a court document is the only piece of evidence linking Jack to Z by virtue of the fact that they happened to be in the same town on the same day, that's pretty weak and wouldn't even stand up in court since there is absolutely nothing else to link the two. Not only that, I'm sure there were thousands of of other people in that city at the same time. It's hardly conclusive and is certainly not a smoking gun. Now, if Kaufman truly had a piece of Stine's shirt like he claimed when he attempted to sell it to Tom for $50,000, that would be a smoking gun... |
   
Tom_voigt
Username: Tom_voigt
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 1:12 pm: | |
According to that document, he wasn't in town the same day; he was near the town nine days later, much like hundreds and thousands of other people. |
   
Ed_neil
Username: Ed_neil
Registered: 5-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 4:44 pm: | |
I just looked at the document again, and it turns out that if one looks at the top, the actual court date was 3-19-1971. It was signed 3 days later on 3-22-1971 by Anthony Nave, the court clerk, and Kaufman indicates that was the same day the Pines card was mailed. So what? I doubt Tarrance had any control over when that document was signed and, judging by the creases, I'd guess it was probably mailed to him some time later. So, he still wouldn't have known the date on which it was prepared by the court clerk, so how can the date possibly be relevant to the Pines card? This is really silly. Jack Tarrance is not Z, and if this is any indication of the quality of the "evidence," well... |
   
Tom_voigt
Username: Tom_voigt
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 4:51 pm: | |
Regardless of the date on that document, the fact remains there is no postmark on the postcard. Therefore, it can't be used to link anything to anyone. |
   
Tom_voigt
Username: Tom_voigt
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 4:56 pm: | |
I've only recently taken a good look at the webpage of Dennis Kaufman. Already I'm getting a headache. Check out this quote from the main page: "on May 8, 1974 zodiac mailed another letter... Then just a month later on July 8, 1974 zodiac mailed a letter once again to the S.F. Chronicle..." The man can't even add. Without displaying actual photographic proof, nothing he posts should be taken seriously. |
   
Joanne_in_mb
Username: Joanne_in_mb
Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 3:56 am: | |
Christ, I'm sorry I said anything about Tarrance OR Lawrence Kane. Who MAY I discuss without being ridiculed? http://www.JoAnnesPage.net |
   
Douglas_oswell
Username: Douglas_oswell
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 4:15 am: | |
Christ will not ridicule you, Joanne. He loves you. No need to apologize. |
   
Kevin
Username: Kevin
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 6:51 am: | |
To avoid being ridiculed, it may help to do a little research before jumping to conclusions and before you start contacting "suspects" by mail, phone, etc. Keep in mind we've had people here claiming Zodiac killed Jon Benet Ramsey. While Jack and Kane may not be quite that lame, they're not far behind. |
   
Exiled
Username: Exiled
Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 7:44 am: | |
?????I really dont understand the need to ridicule anyone in the first place. There's nothing wrong with taking a strong position against someone else's theory or suspect(as I have done myself), but some of you are down right brutal to others on this board! I would be interested to see how you would treat each other in person. Its really easy to be confrontational and rude sitting in front of your monitor, which speaks volume about your true character. There are some legitimate researchers on this mess. board, but for the rest of you who seem to get off on personal attacks, few(if any) outside of this site will ever take you serious.....so get over your selves, or at least refrain from posting your ignorant nit-picking....we'll all be much better off. |
   
Warren
Username: Warren
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 7:51 am: | |
Now Doug... Joanne, if I ever ridicule you, I'll do it in a peaceful, non-violent way. BTW, post some more pictures on your website for us Zodiac pervs. |
   
Ed_neil
Username: Ed_neil
Registered: 5-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 9:08 am: | |
No one's ridiculing anyone here. However, Joanne, you're going over the same ground that's been covered many times before over the years. |
   
Deoxys
Username: Deoxys
Registered: 5-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 9:34 am: | |
Kevin, I'm not sure what the harm is in attempting to contact any suspect in this case, at least anyone that has been eliminated or is not being actively investigated. Larry Kane surely knows of his designation as a "Zodiac suspect". He may or may not be willing to respond but Joanne & I simply asked him to respond to the "points of suspicion" presented here or provide an alibi for relevant dates. Doug, to his credit, has done the same for Ted K., Howard, I believe, has done so for Bruce Davis. The attempt failed but I'm not at all embarassed for trying. |
   
Douglas_oswell
Username: Douglas_oswell
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 9:55 am: | |
For my part, I say develop as many suspects as you want. But as someone who has borne the brunt of much ridicule and criticism in the past (particularly in the early going) I also say, if you can't stand the heat, get out of the oven. |
   
Tom_voigt
Username: Tom_voigt
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 12:14 pm: | |
Joanne, none of my posts were directed at you. |
   
Tom_voigt
Username: Tom_voigt
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 12:17 pm: | |
Exiled, what personal attacks are you speaking of? I'd appreciate more than one example, because I aint' seeing them. Just because someone points out a factual error in a post doesn't make it a personal attack. |
   
Vscantu
Username: Vscantu
Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 5:33 pm: | |
Anyone else getting harrassing Emails from nut-job Dennis Kaufman? Here's the 2nd one he has sent to me in the last few days. It refers to our July 2002 Zodiac Task Force gathering at Blue Rock Springs: "From: "Dennis Kaufman" <denniskaufman@softcom.net> Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert To: vscantu@sbcglobal.net Subject: Check this out Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 12:42:56 -0800 Vic, I just realized you are the homely looking man I was talking to at the little meeting a few years ago! I have a picture of you right here, all be Damn! I never realized that the little punk with the big mouth, is the person that was so freindly in person! Your the man from Chico! Wow this is great.........." |
   
Tom_voigt
Username: Tom_voigt
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 5:38 pm: | |
Victor, save them and then we can give 'em to the media when they contact me to ask about Dennis and his wild theory. By the way, if you e-mail him back, ask where the postmark is on the alleged Zodiac postcard he has at his site. |
   
Kevin
Username: Kevin
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 5:56 pm: | |
I'm not saying people should never be contacted, there's a time and place for it I guess, especially since the police don't seem to be interested. Mike R, Howards, etc, have been researching this for many years and contacting people. However, I'm sure even they will tell you it's not something you do lightly. We recently had the case where Yarbchris wanted to contact someone with about the Hautz letter, and to his credit he asked Howard to do it for him. Contacting someone, hitting them up regarding their involvement in the Zodiac murderers, particularly when a little research on this board shows that the evidence for it is very weak, is not something you do on a lark. That would be especially the case if you really thought he was the Zodiac. |
   
Ed_neil
Username: Ed_neil
Registered: 5-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 5:57 pm: | |
Kaufman e-mailed me today too. I deleted the previous one, it was rather inane and not insulting, but I'm saving today's... guess ol' Kaufman is pretty bored if he's e-mailing insults... |
   
Kevin
Username: Kevin
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 6:00 pm: | |
Here's the one I got from him this morning: "Rick Marshall has got to be the zodiac! Get a life and quit bashing people who have a GENUINE interest in zodiac's real identity!" That gave me a nice chuckle, heh. |
   
Yarbchris
Username: Yarbchris
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 6:46 pm: | |
According to an email from Dennis, Tom is my hero. Nothing against Tom, but I feel somewhat harassed. |
   
Tom_voigt
Username: Tom_voigt
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 7:02 pm: | |
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Tom_voigt
Username: Tom_voigt
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 7:03 pm: | |
NOTE TO SELF: Don't do drugs. |
   
Vscantu
Username: Vscantu
Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 9:26 pm: | |
That's HILARIOUS, Tom! By the way, if anyone else wants to report wingnut Dennis Kaufman for sending his harrassing Emails, feel free to call his Email provider SOFTCOM (toll-FREE): 800-982-7675 M-F 8am-5pm, PST. Be a shame if he got his Email priveledges cut off. But it probably won't matter after he gets his jillion-dollar signing bonus for his non-existent book: "Gettin' Back At My Stepdad" |
   
Hawk
Username: Hawk
Registered: 5-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 11:10 pm: | |
Jo, nobody is ridiculing you per sey, they are simply taking apart Kaufman's so called evidence that you felt was proof and found the flaws that disprove it. You gotta keep in mind that these guy's are pretty sharp in here and know how to find those fine details most people overlook. BTW, do you think the two photo's are of the same person? |
   
Tom_voigt
Username: Tom_voigt
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Friday, January 26, 2007 - 1:34 am: | |
I couldn't figure out how he could see a non-existent postmark on that alleged Zodiac card...but now I think I know why! |
   
Deoxys
Username: Deoxys
Registered: 5-2006
| | Posted on Friday, January 26, 2007 - 2:41 am: | |
Man, how come I never get any e-mail harassment? Kevin, I hear ya. If there were a primary "Larry Kane as Zodiac" proponent on this board, I certainly would have deferred the task of contacting him to them. I suppose Sandy would be the closest to that person and she wants nothing to do with contacting him. I've quite honestly not given a whole lot of thought regarding Kane as a suspect but, again, he IS one of only six people designated as a "Zodiac Suspect" on this site and I'm sure this is not news to him. The letter was written in a respectful manner asking if he wished to comment on any of the points that have been made to implicate him as a "suspect". |
   
Tom_voigt
Username: Tom_voigt
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 2:55 am: | |
I'm willing to admit that Dennis Kaufman might be in rehab, but where did Exiled go? |
   
Exiled
Username: Exiled
Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 1:57 pm: | |
I'm still around Tom. |
   
Hawk
Username: Hawk
Registered: 5-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 2:02 pm: | |
Maybe Dennis Zodiac'd him. Jo won't even talk to us anymore. I'm surprised she didn't nail me on my spelling of the word DIMENSIONS. |
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