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Muskogee
Username: Muskogee

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 3:24 pm:   

When Tom shared Nancy Slover's insight with the board, I was bouncing around the house like a chihuahua on meth. I told my husband (who's not interested in the Zodiac case) about Ms. Slover's comments and he stared at me blankly. I explained who she was: another blank stare. I re-hashed BRS, at which point my softwear- developing husband, who is, himself a geek by any standard, said, "That is *really* geeky."

It got me thinking...most of us really are geeks here at Zodiackiller.com. I think most of us embrace our geekiness, although I expect some backlash from the few closet geeks who haven't yet come to terms with their geekiality.

So, my questions to you, fellow-Zodiologists:
1.) Do you consider yourself a geek?
2.) What's the geekiest thing you've ever done? Attended a Star Wars convention? Worn a "Spock" ski mask? Carried a slide rule on a date? Bragged about your Mensa membership? Tried to "out-conjugate" your friends over beer and chips?

Let's hear it!
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Johno
Username: Johno

Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 3:29 pm:   

I ain't no geek but I am a freak.
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Douglas_oswell
Username: Douglas_oswell

Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 4:19 pm:   

I'm an honorary geek. I work in IT, but it's a way to make a living, not a way of life.
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Etphoto
Username: Etphoto

Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 4:41 pm:   

I don't consider myself a geek but probably spend too much time on the computer.

ET
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Ed_neil
Username: Ed_neil

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 4:54 pm:   

I have attended all 14 Grand Slam Star Trek conventions (now known as the SciFi Summit) in Pasadena, and will continue to attend them as long as Creation hosts them. How geeky is that???

Oh, and I always carry a scientific calculator with me too. Never know when it'll come in handy...
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Vallejo_dave
Username: Vallejo_dave

Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 5:05 pm:   

I don't perceive myself as a geek, but I'm sure a few of you see me that way.

"THE GEEKS AIN'T NOTHING BUT FREAKS."

Musky, on a scale of 1 to 10, how would you rate your hubby on Geekiosity?
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Socal
Username: Socal

Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 6:19 pm:   

I'm the following geek....

-Sports Geek.

-Music Geek.

-Beach Geek.

I like people and my goal is to have fun every minute of every day.
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Johno
Username: Johno

Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 6:58 pm:   

Ed Neil's credentials as listed above earn him the title of King, Overlord, President, Prime Minister, Secretary General, Chieftan, Czar, Emporer, Sultan, Maharajah, Kaiser, Potentate, Regent, Baron, Big Kahuna, Mikado and C.E.O. of Geekdom.
All others are pretenders to the throne.
No geek who posts in this thread will be more credentialized so pay homage.
As a self-proclaimed non-geek, should I ever meet him I will buy a pencil protector just in case and wear it in his presence out of respect.
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John_prisk
Username: John_prisk

Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 12:44 am:   

I used to correct every little thing that people said that happened to be wrong (or even remotely erroneous)....

But I stopped doing that when I was about 18 or so as I realized I was just pissing the ladies off and not dazzling them with my "massive" intellect.
Aside from that I am into a wide variety of traditionally non-geekie things, with the possible exception of my love for reading.
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Nick
Username: Nick

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 1:07 am:   

Well, I've met more than a few of the regulars here and can state unequivocally there's not a geek in the bunch.

You may be confusing geeks with nerds......LOL.
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Etphoto
Username: Etphoto

Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 5:07 am:   

Nick,

What is the difference between a geek and nerd? There might be some slight medical differences but very slight. I'm thinking geek is the political correct name for nerd.

ET
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Muskogee
Username: Muskogee

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 7:16 am:   

Wow, Ed! I think you are the front-runner. By the way, my parents were huge Trekkies in the days of the original Star Trek and more mellow trekkies in the days of the Next Generation. My dad actually does own a Spock ski mask a friend hand-knitted for him in lovely '70s olive green. The Spock ears and eyebrows are in orange. I really had a warped childhood (pun intended).

Johno, how do you define "freak?"

Dave, at the risk of being trite, my husband's an 11. Easily. I could go on all day, but here's just a tiny smattering: he got dual bachelor's degrees in math and computer science, which he completed in 4 years because he placed out of almost all of his freshman classes. He got one "B" as an undergraduate (which I still maintain he got on purpose because he didn't want to risk being valedictorian- he's exceedingly shy and would NEVER give a speech). He worked at Lawrence Livermore Labs, doing God-knows-what during both college and grad school. Like I said, there's a LOT more, but it's painfully boring.

John Prisk said:
"But I stopped doing that when I was about 18 or so as I realized I was just pissing the ladies off and not dazzling them with my 'massive' intellect."

Maybe you can teach my little brother this? He's still pissing the ladies off.

Hmmm, geek vs. nerd. I guess I think of "geek" as being a little more sophisticated, but that's a good question.

Dictionary.com says:

"geek" is:
A person regarded as foolish, inept, or clumsy.
A person who is single-minded or accomplished in scientific or technical pursuits but is felt to be socially inept.
A carnival performer whose show consists of bizarre acts, such as biting the head off a live chicken.

"nerd" is:
A foolish, inept, or unattractive person.
A person who is single-minded or accomplished in scientific or technical pursuits but is felt to be socially inept.

Hmmm, I guess I never really pictured any of y'all biting the heads off of live chickens, so my definition of geek is not in line with their definition.

When I think of "geek" I think of someone intelligent, who likes to pursue intellectual matters and all the minutia involved in such pursuits. I certainly don't think of it as a derogatory term. I think most of y'all fall into this definition, but correct me if I'm wrong. Perhaps "geek chic" would be a better term to use?
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Warren
Username: Warren

Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 11:49 am:   

If surfing the net for porn qualifies me for "geekness" then please, some tape for the glasses.
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Ed_neil
Username: Ed_neil

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 12:05 pm:   

I was originally going to pursue a degree in math (I was top student in my class when I graduated from high school, which kinda surprised me), but my heart just was not in it, which is why I switched to history (I prefer ancient history, but they told us not to specialize until we started our master's). Does that make me geekier? LOL
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Johno
Username: Johno

Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 3:29 pm:   

Muskogee,
Thanks for asking what defines a freak.
A freak is unique I guess. And a non-conformist.
Here is a test that was developed in the 1970's by two pychologists.

http://www.outofservice.com/freak/

I scored 73% for need to be unique, 87% to not conform and 75% for willingness to express dissent for an overall score of 78%. That equates to a higher need for uniqueness than 77 out of 100 people and says that I feel I need to be very unique and different, I like to different than others around me and I speak my mind freely without giving thought to how others will react.
Take the test it's kind of fun at least.
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Vallejo_dave
Username: Vallejo_dave

Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 5:34 pm:   

I'm thinking that if anyone knows what a geek/nerd is, it's Doug O. Why is he being so silent on his area of expertise, LOL.
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Deoxys
Username: Deoxys

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 9:28 pm:   

Interesting test, Johno.

I'm only 72% freak so you must REALLY be freaky! Can we find a geek test so we can calculate our freak/geek ratios. Maybe Ed could tally up the scores with his pocket calculator?
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John_prisk
Username: John_prisk

Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 11:04 pm:   

interesting test

Need to be unique: 79%
Need to NOT conform: 69%
Willingness to express dissent: 75%
Overall score: 75%

I guess it's prolly kinda close....

Muskogee said - -
"Maybe you can teach my little brother this? He's still pissing the ladies off."

Ohhhh, no - that's not good. How old is your lil brother? - Time to get him properly socialized!!
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Muskogee
Username: Muskogee

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 8:15 am:   

Warren, I think surfing the net for porn is a skill practiced by geeks and non-geeks alike!

Ed, history is cool, but pretty geeky (especially ancient hx)! Good question, I don't know which is geekier: math or history. I'd say math, by a slim margin.

Johno, I want to be unique and non-conformist, like everyone else! Fun little self-test, though I didn't come out as "freaky" as I would have thought (I'm guessing more "freaks" than "norms" take the test, which, if correct, would cause the results to be skewed towards the "freaky"). I got: 63% need to be unique, 69% need to not conform, 87% willingness to express dissent, overall: 69%. The "dissent" part was a little surprising, thought I guess it shouldn't be; I'm obnoxiously vocal about my opinions. This is what got me into so much trouble with attending physicians...

Deoxys, coming up with a freak:geek ratio is geeky!

John P., my bro is 24, but he's *starting* to get the hang of it. Lucky for him, he's good- looking, so he still has plenty of girlfriends (much to my mom's chagrin).
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Douglas_oswell
Username: Douglas_oswell

Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 10:45 am:   

I got an overall score of 88, 94, 89 and 67. Not surprising for a guy whose motto is "conformity is the omnibus of death."
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Warren
Username: Warren

Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 1:54 pm:   

I'm a History major, also. Minored in French; imagine that, in a state that's about 90% Hispanic! When my train comes in, you can bet I'll be at the bus station.
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Muskogee
Username: Muskogee

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 3:49 pm:   

Wow, Doug!

For the record, I think Doug is a mega-geek- he and I differ on a lot of issues, but I love his poetry. Ability to write poetry + IT job = geek, IMO.

Howard's got to be a geek, hands down!

What about Tom? Dahlia/Lisa? They're both smart, but are they *geeks?*

Ed bit the bullet and told a tale of ultimate geekiness involving Star Trek and a love of ancient history. Kudos to Ed for having the cajones to proclaim his geek status! Anyone else have a tale?

By the way, IMO, geekiness is an endearing characteristic, so I use the term in this spirit, not in the spirit of a schoolyard bully's jeer.
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Douglas_oswell
Username: Douglas_oswell

Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 5:26 pm:   

I guess I am a geek, after all. But I've got a girlfriend, and I'd rather be with her than wire the house for internet any day.
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Vallejo_dave
Username: Vallejo_dave

Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 5:52 pm:   

I'm afraid to take the test! I might turn out to be Super Geek.

Howard is right up there with the geeky frontrunners, imo.

I think Det. Bill is on the fringes of GEEKDOM.

Musky, I love geeks too. Where would we be without them?---Ed is a good example!!!
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Vallejo_dave
Username: Vallejo_dave

Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 7:04 pm:   

OK, I've just changed my opinion, and this is not meant to be derogatory.

I think Bookworm has nosed out Ed and Doug for Geek of the New Millenium, LOL.

We need some female geek contestants here!
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Colette
Username: Colette

Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 7:38 pm:   

I am proud to be a Z chick, but I'm no geek....
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Muskogee
Username: Muskogee

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 3:46 pm:   

I'll be voluntary Z chick geek! I went to the Mystery Science Theater 3000 Convention while I was in college...twice...the second time in costume! This is not QUITE as bad as Star Trek, but there's some serious overlap between attendees.

Warren...history and French...that's kind of geeky!

Bill, a geek?! I think of him as smart, but not geeky. I'd love his take on it, though (and Dahlia's!).

Doug said,
"But I've got a girlfriend, and I'd rather be with her than wire the house for internet any day."

Doug, I'd be worried if it were otherwise!
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Johno
Username: Johno

Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 4:16 pm:   

I once attended a midnight screening of The Rocky Horror Picture Show which I presumed to be freaky but after seeing theatergoers in costume and interacting with the screen I found the experience to be rather geeky. Is The Rocky Horror Picture Show a curious example of being freaky and geeky at the same time? Are there other such examples of the union of geekdom and freakdom?
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Warren
Username: Warren

Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 7:26 am:   

The Democratic National Committee.
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Racerx
Username: Racerx

Registered: 7-2006
Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 9:45 am:   

Amen!
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Douglas_oswell
Username: Douglas_oswell

Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 9:50 am:   

I heard that, Brother.
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Muskogee
Username: Muskogee

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 1:59 pm:   

Democrats are the biggest squares around. I'd hardly call them freaks. Think about it...do you really think Joe Lieberman could get his "freak on?!" Unfortunately, most of the time, a Democrat is a Republican in wuss's clothing.
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Muskogee
Username: Muskogee

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 2:08 pm:   

Johno, I'd say the MST3K bunch were freak/geeks. I met a talented young freak there (with whom I'm still in contact) in a home-made "Gamera" costume (Gamera is a giant flying turtle that breathes fire and fights other gigantic Japanese creatures, of course). The costume was exquisite. This young lady has been one of the most individualistic, creative people I've known.

Ed, what about Star Trek conventions? I'd venture a guess that there are a lot of freak/geeks there.
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Johno
Username: Johno

Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 2:37 pm:   

Democratic National Committee 2006
- Howard Dean - Geek
- Sen. Harry Reid - Geek
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi - Geek
- Gov. Bill Richardson - Freak-Geek
- St. Sen. Joan Fitz-Gerald - Geek
- Sen. Cahrles Schumer - Geek
- Rep. Rahm Emanuel - So Geeky he was once a professional ballet dancer.
- Lottie Shackelford - Geek
- Linda Chavez-Thompson - Geek
- Rep. Mike Honda - Freak-Geek
- Susan Turnball - Geek
- Mark Brewer - Geek
- Andrew Tobias - Geek
- Alice Travis Germand - Freak-Geek
- Philip D. Murphy - Geek
My analysis finds the 15 members of the DNC to be overwhelming Geekish with only three members being border Freak-Geeks.
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Bargle
Username: Bargle

Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 6:46 pm:   

My Geek/Nerd credentials:
I have attended about a half dozen assorted SF/fantasy Cons, including two Star Trek specific ones.
I'm a discussion board moderator at a Star Trek/SF/Fantasy site. I moderate the sections for the original Start Trek series, ST:The Next Generation and The Twilight Zone.
I got a nit into the book, "The Nitpicker's Guide to Star Trek: The Next Generation, Vol. II" and my name is in the contributors list.
Fan of MST3K. I have many of the episodes taped and the 2 CDs of music from the show and a movie t-shirt.
Went the Rocky Horror Picture at the theater several times. Own the record album on vinyl and have the movie on VHS.
I'm very inept with women. I'm middle-aged, never been married and I'm not gay.
In Jr. High I was in the Chess Club, AV Squad, and Flag Squad.
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Yarbchris
Username: Yarbchris

Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Monday, September 25, 2006 - 7:49 pm:   

Computer geek, techie, webmaster, history geek, music geek, politics geek, and cold case geek. Not a pencil-neck geek, though I love the song. Overall, geekiness is nothing to be ashamed of, but then that's coming from a geek.
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Johno
Username: Johno

Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 7:54 pm:   

Christies Auction house in New york is having a Star Trek auction October 5-7.
4,000 items called "40 Years of Star Trek" from Paramount warehouses will be up for sale.
The largest Star Trek auction ever.

Here's whats for sale from the original and next generation TV shows and the movies:
http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/search/LotSumma ry.asp?intSaleID=20723
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Muskogee
Username: Muskogee

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Thursday, October 19, 2006 - 3:31 pm:   

Bargle, Yarbchris, thanks for proclaiming your geekiness! Z-Geeks unite!

Bargle, don't dispair with the women-folk. Many of us geeky chicks are geekophiles. You're bound to meet the right one...
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Bargle
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Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Thursday, October 19, 2006 - 4:35 pm:   

I probably have, but was too nervous to go over and talk to her. ;-)
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Muskogee
Username: Muskogee

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Thursday, October 19, 2006 - 7:18 pm:   

Ah, so we just have to find you an extrovert geek chick. Hmmm, I'll mentally peruse my address book for female-geek-extrovert/dominatrix and see what I come up with!

I know! We could have the Zodiologists: Geeks, Freaks, and other assorted oddities Dating Game! I might be able to hook you up with my sister, except you live pretty far away from her. She's a geek AND a blonde (we have our doubts about her Indian paternity).
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Warren
Username: Warren

Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Friday, October 20, 2006 - 7:39 am:   

Be sure and add a healthy dose of goth!
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Douglas_oswell
Username: Douglas_oswell

Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Friday, October 20, 2006 - 8:33 am:   

Do what Kaczynski did--send her your resume.
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Bargle
Username: Bargle

Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Friday, October 20, 2006 - 3:54 pm:   

Um, no Dominatrix types, please. BDSM does not float my boat nor does black makeup.
My resume? Well, that might be good for a laugh.
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Douglas_oswell
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Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Friday, October 20, 2006 - 6:13 pm:   

Why not do something desperate and just find someone with similar interests and interact with her socially for a while with no commitments, then if there's a mutual attraction, carry it farther in reasonable increments? I joke about Kaczynski, but that was something he seemed incapable of doing--he evidently was under the impression that you had to go in for the kill on the first date.
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Warren
Username: Warren

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Posted on Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 12:49 pm:   

A common mistake, Doug, and one I've made many times.
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Douglas_oswell
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Posted on Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 5:39 pm:   

Something that struck me as funny about Kaczynski is the way he supposedly told my correspondent that he was glad she didn't try to "jump his bones," or some such expression. Heck, in that case, a little bone-jumping might have been in order. But poor Ted had a tin ear for romance, evidently.
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Bargle
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Posted on Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 6:02 pm:   

"had a tin ear for romance" Well put, Doug. I realized after I tried 'naughty, but flirty' remarks, that I didn't have the knack for them. I just sounded sleazy and I quit trying them.

This seems to be detouring into a discussion of my romantic life. Please let's get back to the geekiness.
Does bowling count as a geeky activity? It always felt slightly geeky.
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Johno
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Posted on Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 10:57 pm:   

Bowling is all-inclusive.
Ralph Kramden was a big fat macho, overbearing, loudmouth 1950's urban redneck and Ed Norton was skinny, meak, vest-over-T shirt, pork pie hat 1950's sewer rat and they were both on the same bowling team.
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Muskogee
Username: Muskogee

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 6:51 pm:   

I think bowling's pretty geeky, but I could just be bitter since I'm lousy at it.
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Vallejo_dave
Username: Vallejo_dave

Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 7:38 pm:   

Barqle, I'm surprised you weren't on the rifle team. I'm a little geeky too--bowled once or twice,an avid chess player,bat boy for the baseball teams,played badminton and croquette,ping pong and pinball machines.Sometimes I wear white socks. In HS, I had penney loafers, with pennies stuck in them!
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Douglas_oswell
Username: Douglas_oswell

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Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 10:02 pm:   

Why not market "condom loafers" for today's hip teens?
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Warren
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Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 7:37 am:   

"Condom Loafers" would make a good band name, in any event.
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Muskogee
Username: Muskogee

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 9:19 am:   

Dave, that is WAYYYY geeky. Ironically, in my earlier post, I almost wrote, "Bowling is kind of geeky, but not as bad as croquette!"

I guess "condom loafers" would give a whole new meaning to your mother telling you to "wear rubbers on your feet..."
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Vallejo_dave
Username: Vallejo_dave

Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 9:56 am:   

Yes, but would "condom loafers" get past airport security? They might be construed as a weapon.

Another geeky trait of mine--my favorite swimming strokes were the doggie paddle and floating.
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Douglas_oswell
Username: Douglas_oswell

Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 2:19 pm:   

Warren, here's a good name for a punk band: Johnny Smegma and the Four Skins.
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Muskogee
Username: Muskogee

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 4:34 pm:   

Douglas, that reminds me of something a friend said in med. school when we were studying for an exam...but it probably isn't as funny as I remember it.

Dave, I think you may be neck-in-neck with Ed Neil for geekiest Z poster...
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Vallejo_dave
Username: Vallejo_dave

Registered: 4-2006
Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 6:33 pm:   

I bow my head to Ed---even tho he is an Aussie Geek, he has the best comments and critique on the message board.----I like Bocce ball and tennis too.
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Vallejo_dave
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Posted on Thursday, October 26, 2006 - 5:31 pm:   

Muskie---You may win female geek of the year! It's a toss up between you, Angie, Jabberwocky, Twink, and Lisa.----Big LOL.
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Bargle
Username: Bargle

Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Thursday, October 26, 2006 - 5:49 pm:   

Dave, they didn't have a rifle team at any of the schools I went to. I did hang around at the Rod and Gun Club during my junior high years.
I favored Hush Puppies for loafers.
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Muskogee
Username: Muskogee

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 6:15 pm:   

Hey, at least I'm in good company with the other geeky women!

Hmmm, I've got the nerd glasses (actually, they're kind of Zodi-esque), but I never wear them.

I grew up listening to classical music and burst out in tears at age 4 when I learned that Beethoven was dead.

Geez, I'm just can't compete with a lot of y'all! I bow humbly in your presence.

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