Cheri Jo Bates on Cold Case Files? Message Board: Possible Zodiac Victim Cheri Jo Bates: Cheri Jo Bates on Cold Case Files?

By Tom Voigt (Admin) ( - on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 03:13 pm:

I really feel the Cheri Jo Bates case would make a great Cold Case Files episode.

The Bates case ranks up there with the Black Dahlia as one of California's most notorious unsolved murders and has a huge number of interested followers all over the world. Plus, there is available DNA to test, which really makes it interesting.

I believe a show focusing on Bates might also jar loose some new information which could finally nail her killer. Many of the people involved are still alive and -- after all these years -- might finally be willing to talk. You never know...

A Zodiac victim or not, I vote for Cold Case Files to tackle the Bates case.

By john prisk ( - on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 01:33 am:

Why not. What could be more "cold" than a 37 year old unsolved case? I'm not so sure about it ranking up there with the Black Dahlia, but Tom is right about there being an absolute boat-load of examinable items to go over in such an episode. It would definately do its part in filling up an hour long show.
Rattle a few cages; jog a few memmories. Ya never know what 60 some odd year old man (or woman) may realize or flash back too while sitting on the couch watching Bill Kurtis.

By Nick (Nick) ( on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 02:00 am:

I think it could work if they didn't over emphasize the Zodiac angle. If they go there, it quickly becomes Zodiac 2, which I'm sure the producers would rather avoid for at least a while. I would imagine we'll see an A&E follow-up to the orginal Zodiac episode when the time is right.

By Sandy (Sandy) ( - on Tuesday, August 19, 2003 - 12:21 am:

Tom, I second that vote ! I would like to see what could be done with the palm print that was found on her car,as well as the DNA.

By Bookworm (Bookworm) ( - on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 07:00 am:

I would like to see an episode done.

By RedCrow ( - on Wednesday, August 20, 2003 - 05:35 pm:

Yeah, I'd like to see a whole show dedicated to her.

By Howard Davis (Howard) ( - on Friday, August 22, 2003 - 05:14 pm:

The stamps and flaps on the '66 Confession letter/s and'67 notes need to have a DNA analysis.
This includes the previously unknown '67 envelope I published in my book which was furnished to me by the Enterprise librarian.I will say RPD has both the letter and envelope(and some other very interesting documents).If it matches the '66/7 series, then this will indicate same authorship.At least that's some progress.
An A&E show or documentry with fresh investigative insights and facts,could place some pressure on the RPD to do more DNA analysis-and possibly,bring out new information from the public and explore other avenues.
Since the RPD has originals to do Indentation Analysis -my term-they should be done to possibly detect any clues from the paper surfaces.This includes envelopes too.S.F. should do this analysis also.
They would be derelict in their duty if they didn't at least do the tests themselves or have the testing done.Cases have been solved(or provided excellent leads) using this technology.
Good Zidea Tom,as always.

By ai ( - on Saturday, August 23, 2003 - 05:15 am:

In Germany where I live there is an great deal of interest in the cheri Bates case. I hope Cold Case Files profiles her.

By scott ( on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 01:47 pm:

I also agree that they should do a show on Bates. I have a feeling it would really shake something loose...

By Andrew File ( on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 12:38 am:

If anyone can dig up new info on the Cheri Bates case, it's Bill Kurtis and Cold Case Files. I really hope they do an episode!

By Kia Ching ( - on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 12:52 am:

add me to the list. I'd really like to see it happen...

By Eduard ( - on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 02:23 am:


I had communication with the RPD about my discovery of indentions on the Bates letters.
You can read about it on this page of my CJB-website:
CJB murder website

They do not believe new research on the Bates letters will result in new information in this cold case. Why not? Beats me....

Eduard Versluijs

By RET ( - on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 03:29 pm:

CCF has done unsolved homicides in past shows. Maybe they are trying to balance things out with some "happy" endings.It' s so great to see some murdering SOB get his due 20 years after he thinks he's been forgotten!As for the Z show, it kind of left me wishing there was something new and fresh to consider. Well done, nonetheless.

By Tom_Voigt ( - on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 03:31 pm:

I appreciate all the feedback, however I really want to hear specifically thoughts on the idea of a Bates episode.

By RET ( - on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 03:33 pm:

Sorry, yea for a Bates CCF from here.

By Vidar ( - on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 03:34 pm:

I'm posting this from Hawaii and I speak for the islands when I say, "Let's see Bates on Cold Case Files!"

By Ed Taylor ( - on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 06:35 pm:

I too vote to see Bates on Cold Case Files. However, does it matter what show airs the episode as long as its well done and gives the Bates case some well deserved coverage?


By Don Casement ( - on Thursday, August 28, 2003 - 06:34 pm:

Tom, I think that the Zodiac episode was great and really hope they schedule a Bates show. Cold Case Files usually only features unsolved cases, but they obviously can change that policy, as the Zodiac show proved.

By IQ ( on Friday, August 29, 2003 - 09:41 am:

Yes! I vote yes for the show!

By Mike (Oklahoma_Mike) ( on Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 09:37 pm:

I think it would be a great idea. I don't have cable and only occasionally catch the show, but the few I have seen have been good. I have notyet seen the Zodiac episode, regretfully.
If they were to do a show on Miss Bates I agree that it should not be exclusively an addendum to the Zodiac show. The [possibliity of Zodiac being the killer (as well as "Barnett")and all other angles, new and old, should be examined.
By the way, I'm changing servers and may be gone for a while. Only mentioned in case someone trys to contact me and receives no response, I'm not ignoring anyone.

By Gene Roehr ( on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 06:39 am:

Here's my vote for the show to happen!

By Merlin ( - on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 03:52 pm:

I vote in favor of the Bates A&E show.Maybe some current national exposure would do the trick and get it solved.-Merlin-

By phil the user ( - on Saturday, September 06, 2003 - 09:31 am:

Tom, i saw the zodiac show and vote for a&e to do one on bates...

By Chad Steube ( - on Friday, October 03, 2003 - 02:28 am:

Being a case almost 37 years old, I can't see how the Riverside police wouldn't cooperate in a Cold Case Files episode. What would they have to lose? It could be like that tv show in the 1980s trying to catch the Green River Killer with Patrick Duffy as the host. Generated lots of leads and renewed interest in the case. Heck, even without the hith the help of the Riverside police, Cold Case Files could pull off a heck of a show. I vote in favor!

By Colette (Colette) ( - on Saturday, October 04, 2003 - 07:21 pm:

I also think they should run DNA tests on the watch/band found at crime scene... to see if it matches the other DNA found.

By Legal Eagle (Legaleagle) ( - on Friday, October 10, 2003 - 11:58 am:

The problem with that is that Cold Case File only does cases that have been ultimately solved, to the best of my knowledge. Something like America's Most Wanted or Unsolved Mysteries(if they ever start airing new episodes) would be more fitting. IMHO.

By Tom_Voigt ( - on Friday, October 10, 2003 - 01:24 pm:

Legal Eagle, Cold Case Files just did an episode on the Zodiac case, so your point is irrelevant.

By hzsi ( - on Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 07:38 pm:

With the anniversary of Cheri's murder arriving within the week, the timing would be great for a new show. Of course, anytime would be great.

Go for it, "Cold Case Files"!

By Opal ( - on Thursday, October 30, 2003 - 12:33 pm:

it's been 37 years since Cheri was killed.judging by Tom's recent update and all the interest in her case, i'd say a cold case files episode would be a smart move.people love mysteries and i've watched quite a few profiled on that show that weren't nearly as interesting as the Bates case.

By Tim Allen ( - on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 09:45 am:

Bates on Cold case Files,with Bill Curtis.
This would be one of the most watched episodes of the night. I would watch it several times,until they decided to stop running it. That would be great and most likely bring to light some new
insights on the case.Thumbs up, Tom.

By Ryan Olesin (Ryan) ( - on Monday, November 10, 2003 - 05:25 pm:

Or Tim, you could always tape it and watch it even after they stop running it.

Since there is a finite amount of cold cases, I'm sure sooner or later a show would be done on CJB.

By Confederate ( - on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 09:03 pm:

Tom, I hope this show happens. "Cold Case Files" is great and the Bates case deserves the spotlight.

By norma o west ( - on Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 07:55 am:

I really would have liked to have seen the episode on the Zodiac but do not have cable. I talked to Detective Carrroll about my theory on the Zodiac and when I finally actually got to talk to him I was so excited, but he did not agree with my idea of who the killer was. However, Cheri Jo cries out to me and I do not know why, I see her last name here and there on lists, I go to town and I see a lime green volkswagon and it tears at my heart. I believe the man that killed Cheri Jo killed Paul Stine, too and I believe he was a cop, LAPD. They were effigy killings, they looked like loved ones who hurt the killer.

By Rick Miller ( on Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 04:27 am:

I know that Bill Kurtis can be contacted via CCF website. He has a great deal of input on the show's content. Just a thought.