Pig Season

Zodiackiller.com Message Board: General Zodiac Discussion: Pig Season

By Tom Voigt (Admin) (12-231-193-32.client.attbi.com - on Monday, September 22, 2003 - 03:15 pm:

If Zodiac was a hunter -- as many have theorized -- he probably would have been at least somewhat familiar with the dates of California's various hunting seasons.

In 1969, many seasons, including deer, opened on Sept. 20. However, today I learned that only one -- pig season -- opened on Sept. 27...the date of Zodiac's attack at Lake Berryessa.

For someone who enjoyed "needling the blue pigs" as Zodiac did, I wonder if the date of the attack was just a coincidence.

By William Baker (Bill_Baker) (lsanca1-ar17-4-61-196-020.lsanca1.elnk.dsl.genuity.net - on Monday, September 22, 2003 - 04:05 pm:

Dang, that sounds like something that Bookworm would have come up with. Be interesting if Cheney, or Allen's other hunting partners, would recall if they ever went pig hunting.

By Tom_Voigt (12-231-193-32.client.attbi.com - on Monday, September 22, 2003 - 04:13 pm:

Bill, even if Zodiac wasn't a hunter at all, it still would have made a great taunt for him to kill someone on that day. Also, the date was for Monterey County, but it was the only season in California opening on September 27.

By Alan Cabal (Alan_Cabal) (cache-mtc-ak04.proxy.aol.com - on Monday, September 22, 2003 - 05:07 pm:

Elegant thread, Tom. Interesting line of thinking. Are you leaning toward someone, here? Someone besides Allen?

By Tom_Voigt (12-231-193-32.client.attbi.com - on Monday, September 22, 2003 - 05:58 pm:

Nope, I have no suspect in mind.

Hunter or not, Zodiac liked to taunt and pig season would have been the perfect opportunity.

By Streamfunky (line07bf.kdt.de - on Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 10:56 am:

Tom, very good thread, and honestly speaking!

By J Eric (J_Eric) (dialup- - on Wednesday, September 24, 2003 - 11:11 pm:

Isn't a pig one of the Chinese signs of the Zodiac?

By Bookworm (Bookworm) (12-206-165-69.client.attbi.com - on Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 06:20 am:

J Eric,
I looked up the Chinese Zodiac and it said the "year of the pig" was 1971. I guess their calendar cycle is twelve years.

1969 was the "year of the rooster." Roosters are chickens aren't they?

By Alan Cabal (Alan_Cabal) (cache-mtc-ak04.proxy.aol.com - on Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 11:17 am:

Only if I'm Britney Spears.

By J Eric Freedner (J_Eric) (dialup- - on Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 01:44 pm:

12 animals came to wish Buddha a happy birthday, if I recall the mythology correctly. So he said, "All youse guys who showed me respect get to be in my Zodiac. Everyone else is out of the action. Don't say nothin' to nobody about it." Or were those the 5 New York Families? Anyway--unless someone sees a connection with any other Z victims and Chinese Zodiac signs or hunting seasons (which also change yearly), I don't know where this thought will go.

If I were hunting pigs on opening day, I'd take a sturdy rifle, not a handgun and a homemade knife. A boar nearly killed the Sheriff of San Benito County a few years back when he merely wounded it and it turned on him. No professional courtesy, there!

By Howard Davis (Howard) ( - on Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 02:40 pm:

The Family was always out hunting down the "pigs" or "piggies"...

By Alan Cabal (Alan_Cabal) (cache-mtc-ak04.proxy.aol.com - on Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 04:41 pm:

"Clutching forks and knives, to eat their bacon..."

By Sandy (Sandy) (12-233-91-30.client.attbi.com - on Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 07:01 pm:

I thought Allen hunted chickens? Isn't that how he got all that chicken blood on him on 9/27 ? Well hunting Pigs lets my suspect out,unless he just liked to kill, but not cook them. Myself I have hunted wild pigs with my 44 Ruger rifle and scope. You would have to be nuts to use a pistol!Zodiac didn't know anything about hunting pigs,if he did, he wouldn't have thought humans were the most dangerous game. Just how dangerous did he think defenseless teens were ? When you look up the word Zodiac, it should read coward !

By J Eric Freedner (J_Eric) (dialup- - on Thursday, September 25, 2003 - 11:19 pm:

Chicken (rooster) got into the Chinese Zodiac too. By the way, wasn't anyone the least bit skeptical about that chicken story, seeing as Allen didn't bring home so much as a drumstick for his poor old mom to eat? Did anyone ever bother to track down the farm or coop he visited in order to verify the tale? And help me out from some forensic person but--isn't bird blood quite a bit different in color/odor/texture than human/mammal kind?

By Warren (Warren) ( - on Friday, September 26, 2003 - 07:35 am:

In my state, where we are being overrun by feral hogs (no license needed, year long season) I know many who hunt the critters with pistols. .357 or .44 is preferred. I would not hunt one with a 9mm or .38 reg. I also know several who hunt bear with pistols. There is even a .50 cal pistol! Javelina (pecarry, razorbacks), a license needed.

By Warren (Warren) ( - on Friday, September 26, 2003 - 07:37 am:

BTW, your momma sow can deliver 4 or 5 litters of up to 20 each during the year. Do the math. Don't tell Cruz.

By Bookworm (Bookworm) (12-206-165-69.client.attbi.com - on Friday, September 26, 2003 - 08:30 am:

J Eric made a good point bringing up the Chinese Zodiac. It is a Zodiac.

According to this Chinese Zodiac website, Allen was born in the year of the monkey and also died in the year of the monkey. It says that the monkey is most compatible with the rat and the dragon. There was the Dragon Card and the oriental looking writing on the Exorcist letter.

Cecelia was born (police report) in the year of the pig and Bryan was born in the year of the ox, but they were attacked in the year of the rooster.


By Howard Davis (Howard) ( - on Friday, September 26, 2003 - 05:55 pm:

9/27/69 was also the Feast of Tabernacles-another holiday, as were most of the Z attacks.

By Howard Davis (Howard) ( - on Friday, September 26, 2003 - 05:56 pm:

That Feast is Jewish and we all know what they think of pigs(the Muslims too)!

By Muskogee (Muskogee) (209-223-48-54-dyndsl.oplnk.net - on Saturday, September 27, 2003 - 06:10 pm:

I doubt that chicken blood would be that much different from human blood, though I've never seen chicken blood. It is molecularly the same and performs the same function. DNA analysis would be different, but, of course, that wasn't around back then.