"Z" Probably Wrote To Papers Many Times Before He Was "Z"
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|By Bruce Monson (The_Adversary) (csd139.bvi3.cos.pcisys.net - 184.108.40.206) on Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 10:28 pm:|
I think there is a reasonable chance that "Z", or atleast the author of the
"Z" literature, had written to the Examiner and/or Chronicle in the past, well
before becoming a killer, and probably in the form of letters to the editor on
current event issues that piqued his interests or irritated him. In fact, this person may
have continued to write letters even during the time the "Z" murders were
happening, perhaps commenting on them from the standpoint of a concerned
"citizen" worried about the lack of progress in catching this monster.
It probably wouldn't be something blatantly obvious, but maybe just the way he phrases certain things, uses British spelling (assuming it wasn't corrected for print), or focuses attention toward a certain familiar Z-like tidbit. If any of the known suspects had written such letters it would certainly be a big piece of evidence! Heck, there might even be a letter by someone calling themselves Patricia Hautz? Or someone with the initials "RH"? Who knows?
If there are any upstart Bay area locals who wouldn't mind spending a couple of days going through the archives of these papers, beginning, let's say, six months prior to the first murder (or even a year prior if you're up to it), and all the way through the heavy "Z" activity, I wouldn't be at all surprised if "something interesting" turned up.
One would think this is something the police would have been all over, but considering all the other times the ball got dropped, maybe this is another one that slipped through the cracks...
|By Tom Voigt (Tomvoigt) (ac9a0a66.ipt.aol.com - 220.127.116.11) on Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 10:32 pm:|
I think Ed N. would have spotted him by now. He has found just about everything printed in the Bay Area during the 1960s-1970s, as far as I know...
|By Kevinrm (Kevinrm) (cx206582-c.mesa1.az.home.com - 18.104.22.168) on Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 10:48 pm:|
Didn't Tom post something about someone doing this awhile back and the info ended up impressing the cops? Who was his suspect?
|By Clark (Clark) (slip-32-102-174-201.or.us.prserv.net - 22.214.171.124) on Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 11:20 pm:|
Relevant portions of the SF Chronicle: Another Zodiac freelancer, Mike Rodelli, an
unemployed advertising copywriter from New Jersey, wrote to Napa County sheriff's
detectives in March with a 15-page report laying out circumstantial evidence that he
believes connects an elderly San Francisco man with the five Zodiac killings. Napa County
investigators were impressed enough with Rodelli's work to run a fingerprint check on the
man but have not interviewed him. The results of the fingerprint check reportedly are
pending. "They told me this was the best suspect they had ever seen,'' said Rodelli,
44.``One of the first things they said was, `Please don't give this to any other
jurisdiction. We want to work on this exclusively.' '' The theory is still under
investigation, said Lt. Brian Banducci, who heads the Napa County sheriff's homicide unit.
"There are a lot of coincidences there, and we haven't ruled him out completely, but
I don't think we can prove he was the Zodiac,'' he said. It was through the literary style
of the letters that Rodelli found his suspect. Figuring that somebody who loved to write
anonymous letters to the paper probably did so under his real name as well, Rodelli
searched back issues of The Chronicle until he found a signed letter that, he said,
paralleled the killer's high-handed tone. Rodelli then began looking into the background
of the author and discovered an old magazine photograph that, he said, shows that his
suspect was an ``absolute dead ringer'' for a San Francisco police sketch of the killer.
Several key dates in the man's life also match the dates of the Zodiac killings,which is
noteworthy because the killer was known to commemorate anniversaries through letters to
the newspapers. ``Rodelli has raised a lot of good points -- maybe they're coincidences,
but maybe not,'' said retired Napa County Sheriff's Lt. Ken Narlow, the department's lead
Zodiac investigator until his retirement seven years ago. ``It frustrates me that there's
so much there, but nobody will go knock on the guy's door. I think the San Francisco
police are shy of him because of his status, but if I was still working this case, I would
sure go down and talk to the guy.'' In a conversation with The Chronicle, the man
identified by Rodelli as the suspect laughed loudly and shook his head when told that the
Napa County Sheriff's Office had been checking his fingerprints. `You can't find anybody
in this city that's less likely to be the Zodiac killer than me,'' said the 81-year-old
businessman. ``I haven't hit anybody since I was a kid. It's goofy.
``He has nothing,'' he said of Rodelli. ``This is all circumstantial nonsense in his eyes. I have a lot of assets to bring to bear, and that son of a b**** is going to be sorry he did it.''The San Francisco Police Department has also looked at Rodelli's circumstantial case -- and is not impressed. ``There's just not enough there,'' said Bruton, who acknowledged that his role as San Francisco's lead Zodiac detective is mostly an ``extracurricular activity'' in which he takes a call or two every week from somebody with a new theory on the killer's identity.
|By Clark (Clark) (slip-32-102-174-201.or.us.prserv.net - 126.96.36.199) on Tuesday, January 16, 2001 - 11:22 pm:|
Oops, forgot to add: This is excerpted from the Oct. 2, 2000 issue of the SF Chronicle.
|By Douglas Oswell (Dowland) (155.philadelphia01rh.15.pa.dial-access.att.net - 188.8.131.52) on Wednesday, January 17, 2001 - 09:43 am:|
What would you think of an individual who committed a gory murder and then immediately wrote a letter to the San Francisco Examiner, taking credit for the crime in much the same terms as Z?
|By Kevinrm (Kevinrm) (cx206582-c.mesa1.az.home.com - 184.108.40.206) on Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 03:36 pm:|
Clark, thanks for posting that! Interesting!
|By Esau (Esau) (cc129455-a.rcrdva1.ca.home.com - 220.127.116.11) on Thursday, January 18, 2001 - 06:49 pm:|
Doug, are you talking about the Unabomber or someone else?
|By Douglas Oswell (Dowland) (244.philadelphia01rh.15.pa.dial-access.att.net - 18.104.22.168) on Friday, January 19, 2001 - 12:44 am:|
The Unabomber, of course. I thought everyone knew about that incident.
|By Lapumo (Lapumo) (p71.as2.dungarvan1.eircom.net - 22.214.171.124) on Friday, January 19, 2001 - 03:42 am:|
Douglas,Ive recently seen an episode of the FBI Files,dealing with the Unabomber case.There are indeed some very interesting similarities.One thing they did not deal with in the programme was the meaning for "FC" TK had on all his bombs.Do you know what this stood for? Thanks.
|By Douglas Oswell (Dowland) (130.philadelphia01rh.16.pa.dial-access.att.net - 126.96.36.199) on Friday, January 19, 2001 - 09:34 am:|
"FC" stood for "Freedom Club." One thing that some may not be aware of was the fact that Kaczynski spray-painted a symbol on the wall of a building at California State in Sacramento. The symbol consisted of an upside-down peace-symbol inside a circle, with the letters "FC" inside the circle and the word "ANARCHY" without. So once again we see the "crossed line-in-circle" symbolism so typical of Kaczynski.
|By Mcgarrett2000 (Mcgarrett2000) (adsl-64-168-25-22.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net - 188.8.131.52) on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 09:50 am:|
I worked at the new SF Examiner in late 2000-early 2001 and I oversaw the archives. Among the materials that we put into storage were boxes upon boxes of letters to the paper. Upon examining them, I found that many of them were letters from readers about the Patty Hearst case and some about Jonestown, but remember I did not spend much time with them. I pretty much had to tell the movers if we wanted them or not. Not having time to read through them, I had the movers take them away. Point being though, that all of the letters to the EX from that time period are now locked away in a warehouse in Hunter's Point somewhere and aren't open to the public. The Examiner is now very very hard to get past issues out of. Now you could go to the SF Public Library and they do have the paper going back a ways on fiche, but that would only give you the letters that the paper actually printed.
|By Howard Davis (Howard) (dsl-gte-10407-2.linkline.com - 184.108.40.206) on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 02:55 pm:|
One wonders if Z did send a letter(other than the one/s we know of) or two to the Examiner and it or they were somehow lost in the shuffle or mistaken for a crank communication and 'filed 'or thrown away.
The "CitiZen" letter is a case in point.Someone at the EX that opened letters at that time could have tossed such a letter out or filed it.
If so ,was this another reason Z pretty much ignored the Ex?
I think more than one Zesearcher would like to go through those old letters!
|By Douglas Oswell (Dowland) (155.philadelphia01rh.15.pa.dial-access.att.net - 220.127.116.11) on Monday, October 15, 2001 - 10:13 pm:|
Howard, after Kaczynski's first successful bombing in 1985 he sent a letter signed "FC" to the San Francisco Examiner, taking credit for the crime. Surprisingly, it was neither published nor brought to the attention of the police. (He later referenced it in another letter, and the FBI found a copy of it in his cabin.) That leads me to think that whoever was responsible for initially reviewing the letters wasn't doing his job as well as he might.
|By Howard Davis (Howard) (ont-cvx1-38.linkline.com - 18.104.22.168) on Tuesday, October 16, 2001 - 01:35 am:|
Excellent point and info!