A creepy little Zynchronicity...

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By Valentine Smith (Valentinesmith) (spider-mtc-te022.proxy.aol.com - on Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 01:44 pm:

I live in a college town in Northern Florida. Now, I've noticed that many of the little alleyways and such bear a resemblance in layout and geography to the photos I've seen of the Cheri Jo crime scene...anyway...that's not the point.

The point IS that directly across the street from my girlfriend's bedroom window is a large wooden fence. This fence has all sorts of nonsensical anarchist graffiti spray painted on it by local punk rock kids and such. EXCEPT...directly across from my girl's window, half covered by anarchy signs and stuff, are TWO (count 'em) TWO Zodiac crosshair symbols and underneath them a LARGE capital letter "Z".

The funny thing is that in the years I've lived here, I've NEVER noticed it until a couple of weeks ago. I wonder if it's recent? I certainly haven't met ANYBODY else in this town with an interest in the Z case...of course that doesn't mean they are not here. I would LOVE to know when this was put up there though.

I pointed it out to my girl and she got very uncomfortable...

By Daijove (Daijove) (1cust120.tnt1.san-angelo.tx.da.uu.net - on Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 04:21 pm:

Perhaps Zodiac took a little vacation to your town and left his calling card.

By Zander Kite (Zk) (dialup- - on Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 08:10 pm:

I also have a somewhat "creepy" zynchro story. Some eleven years ago, I purchased my copy of "Zodiac", believe it or not, some 30 miles or so north of Chicago. That's strange enough...but then after walking out of the store(I was at a mall)... this strange bearded guy started mumbling to me and I'm pretty sure he said something like "Would you like me to sign that for you." About a week before that though, at the same mall, some other guy was trying to sell me fake ID's mumbling fast like the bearded guy, so I kind of brushed it off as a similar occurence... at the time... but looking back on it... I wonder what that really was all about ???

By Ryan Olesin (Ryan) (d150-160-190.home.cgocable.net - on Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 09:09 pm:

Valentine, some spray paint is not that big of a deal. I've seen a nazi sign spray painted and underneath it said "we're back".

I'm sure there are other people all over the world who know of this case. How would you go about meeting people in your area who are interested in a specific serial killer?

By Alan Cabal (Alan_Cabal) ( on Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 09:42 pm:

That was me at the mall, Zander.

By Tom Voigt (Tom_Voigt) (12-224-186-54.client.attbi.com - on Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 10:08 pm:

Valentine, I get lots of e-mail from Florida. Zodiac is like ZZ-Top; he's nationwide.

By Howard Davis (Howard) (ont-cvx1-198.linkline.com - on Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 10:27 pm:

Weird,as this is when Tom and Ed went to FLa. to surf!

By Ed N (Ed_N) (acc0d5c0.ipt.aol.com - on Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 10:56 pm:

What's really creepy is how well my addition to the English language has caught on already...

By Valentine Smith (Valentinesmith) (spider-tn064.proxy.aol.com - on Friday, June 14, 2002 - 12:02 am:

HA! So YOU'RE the one responsible for that Ed? Well...credit where credit's due! I've been looking for an excuse to use it!

I wasn't implying that there was any real significance to this. Just that I noticed it almost IMMEDIATELY after my resurgence of interest in the case and started showing my girlfriend (patient and understanding young lady that she is) this site.

Swastikas I see spray painted ALL the time. Hell..about a year ago me and three of my buddies were involved in a brawl outside a club with a bunch of skinheads. It's just rare to see not one but TWO crosshair symbols and then a large Z underneath. Hell...the "Z" might have even been from a completely unrelated piece of graffiti.

My association of the crosshair symbol though is just enough to give me a little shudder when I see it.

Tom, am I wrong in supposing that Florida has a somewhat high serial killer activity kinda like the West Coast? I mean, there were some AWFUL murders in this town about 20 years ago, and I believe Bundy passed through here too...

By Zander Kite (Zk) (dialup- - on Saturday, June 15, 2002 - 01:00 pm:

It's a good word for now, but after DNA results are official, it will have to be changed to "Kaczynchronicity".

By Ed N (Ed_N) (acbf4e33.ipt.aol.com - on Saturday, June 15, 2002 - 10:27 pm:

Zander: you sound more certain than even Douglas ever has. However, I suspect that just the opposite will be true if and when they ever get around to doing any DNA testing.

By Linda (Linda) (208-59-124-37.s37.tnt1.frdr.md.dialup.rcn.com - on Sunday, June 16, 2002 - 07:31 am:

Zander... In your above E-Mail you indicated you were in a mall approximately 30 miles north of Chicago when the strange occurence took place after your purchase of the Zodiac book. Are you from the Chicago area? Of course, that is TK's hometown. Could you have known of the Kaczynski family and/or studied the Unabomber case extensively because of this...then when the U/Z connection was introduced, became interested in researching the theory? You have some extremely good insight into the two! I enjoy your posts!


By Douglas Oswell (Dowland) (132.philadelphia06rh.15.pa.dial-access.att.net - on Sunday, June 16, 2002 - 07:51 am:

Ed, I'm not "certain" of anything, except perhaps the usual "death and taxes." I like Kaczynski as a suspect based on the probabilities involved, but I'm not so blind as to ascribe a probability of 100 percent to the connection. The Unabomber/Zodiac similarities are interesting not only because of any tie-ins, but because the personalities involved are so similar that the study of one can lead to insights in the study of the other.

By Zander Kite (Zk) (dialup- - on Sunday, June 16, 2002 - 12:52 pm:

Linda, I lived in Illinois for about 9 months, Waukegan actually. I'm not certain, but for some reason I think "Lakehurst" might be the name of the mall, which could be considered further (Kac)zynchronicity, maybe. But I left there around 1992. Honestly, I see no other way around that Kaczynski is Zodiac. I would place it at 99.9 percent with the long odds that someone just like Ted was the real killer. Of course, keep in mind that this is based on reading endless other cases and becoming very familiar with knowing when a suspect is a perfect fit.

By obiwan (Obiwan) (ciw2.ciw.edu - on Friday, August 30, 2002 - 11:55 pm:

Under the catagory of Miscellaneous Zynchronicity, Here's an excerpt from an article in Z's favorite paper

San Francisco -- A fleet of tall sailing ships got more than they
bargained for in the Golden Gate on Wednesday when a howling gale
turned what was supposed to be a grand parade into a windy scramble.


The event was a bit of a homecoming for the long, lean schooner
Zodiac, which spent 40 years sailing the Golden Gate as a San
Francisco pilot boat. The vessel was named California in those days,
and when it was retired, in 1972, it was the last sailing pilot vessel
in the world. The Zodiac is now based in Seattle.