Prostitute Victim??????? Message Board: Other Possible Zodiac Victims: Prostitute Victim???????

By Poison (Poison) ( - on Monday, December 11, 2000 - 11:05 pm:

i recently saw a documentary (which is appearing on directv pay per view this month) called 'American Pimp'. a pimp (from San Francisco) said that one of his prostitutes was killed by the zodiac. he said she was cut up really bad and the police took him to see the body. has anyone else seen this???? which victim could this have been????

By Ed N. (Edn) ( - on Monday, December 11, 2000 - 11:12 pm:

Never heard of it, but it sound like someone decided to throw some Bay Area mythology into his/her/their manuscript. Z never murdered prostitutes (at least, none of the official five victims were).

By Ed N. (Edn) ( - on Monday, December 11, 2000 - 11:15 pm:

And if it is a documentary, it sounds like an unsolved case that the pimp blamed on Z just because. Or maybe he murdered his own girl and blamed it on Z...

By Poison (Poison) ( - on Tuesday, December 12, 2000 - 02:36 pm:

i'm not saying that i take his guys word to be truth. i was just wondering if perhaps one of the known victims was indeed a prostitute and no one in her family knew what she was doing. the documentary was directed and produced by the Hughes brothers. they are well respected film makers and i have no idea why they would leave that segment in if it were fiction.

By Ed N. (Edn) ( - on Tuesday, December 12, 2000 - 06:06 pm:

Maybe the pimp thought it was Z, maybe the homicide detectives said it might have been Z. Who knows? In any case, of the three known female Z-victims, Jensen was 16 (a Christian Scientist, highly unlikely to be a prostitute), Ferrin was 22 (on her second failing marriage, lots of problems, liked dating cops, but not likely to have been a prostitute), and Shepard was 22 (a student at the Seventh Day Adventist Pacific Union College, so highly unlikely she was a prostitute).

In addition, being a prostitute requires the girls to be with the pimp and the johns quite a bit of the time, and I don't see how any of the known female Z victims could have had the time anyway. I think the pimp was full of it.

By Tom Voigt (Tomvoigt) ( - on Tuesday, December 12, 2000 - 06:41 pm:

Ed, you should teach Pimp 101.

By Oscar (Oscar) ( - on Tuesday, December 12, 2000 - 10:46 pm:

Thank you for furthering my contention that you are, at heart, a perverted reprobate! How would you know so much about pimping? Hmmm... By the way, those Christian Scientist babes are hot, and the Seventh Day Adventists are downright ornery by the time you get them to the eigth day (you need to use Penn-style mathematics to make this work).
p.s. Penn in 2004. Do the math!

By Ed N. (Edn) ( - on Tuesday, December 12, 2000 - 11:42 pm:

Hey, and I was just using simple logic and common sense. I wonder how good I'd be if I put that into practice... LOL

By Sandy (Sandy) ( - on Thursday, December 14, 2000 - 09:34 pm:

Z killed who ever was easy, and who would be easier than a prostitute. I don't believe that he stopped after killing stine. Knowing his macabre sense of humor, a prostitute was killed in Oakland, CA a few years back. Her name was Dorothy, and her body was put on the front door step of a street named Kansas. There were many prostitutes killed in Pittsburg, Ca. not long ago.
The few that got away described a short man, older, wavy hair, horn rim glasses with a lazy eye fitting the description of Larry Kane. When shown his picture they ID LK. So I find it odd that a man who is a Z suspect, is also suspected of killing prostitutes.

By Esau (Esau) ( - on Sunday, December 17, 2000 - 02:18 pm:

I think Zodiac's ego would be too big to not claim his victims.

By Hurley (Hurley) ( - on Sunday, December 17, 2000 - 05:27 pm:

I think killing a prostitute would have been too easy for Zodiac (not saying that he never did). This was a game to him so there had to be some challenge or risk I believe.

By Douglas Oswell (Dowland) ( - on Monday, December 18, 2000 - 09:21 am:

Zodiac's female victims were far from being prostitutes, but not necessarily in Zodiac's eyes.

By Tom Voigt (Tomvoigt) ( - on Monday, December 18, 2000 - 09:55 am:

How do you know that?

By Douglas Oswell (Dowland) ( - on Monday, December 18, 2000 - 06:32 pm:

Because they were out in the sticks where people went to commit the naughty act and at least one of them was probably doing it when Zodiac popped up on her. It's human nature to despise what we can't obtain, and I've little doubt that Zodiac greased the wheels of his murderous intentions and justified the crimes to himself by rationalizing that these women were promiscuous sluts who deserved what they were getting.

By Sandy (Sandy) ( - on Monday, December 18, 2000 - 09:39 pm:

If zodiac is still doing his thing, and he said he would be. Who's to say he is not keeping his word as far as not announcing it? As long as the murder its self gets attention, wouldn't he feel like he was getting the attention? What if he has been questioned in connection with the Z crimes,and let go for lack of evidence? He would take advantage of the death of a z suspect and let it be thought that z was dead. To start sending notes again, could cause him a lot of unwanted grief. I believe the police did talk to the killer and didn't know it, and that's why he is "quietly" still doing his thing. Maybe he was conceived in the back seat of a car, abandoned at birth by his mother and father, and is taking it out on anyone parking and doing there thing? Maybe he thinks of his mother as a whore, don't most people think of prostitutes as whores? He enjoys killing, why not prostitutes? We can't go on his so called M.O. He changed it as often as he changed his underwear, "that's the M.O."! If he didn't report the 5 he did, no one would of put them together.