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: Ciphers: Question to Glen| By Eduard (erasmuscollege.nl - 194.109.60.77) on Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 06:15 am: |
Can a cipher contain a system that turns characters of that cipher in numericals wich
contain a mathical sum?
I hope I wrote it in plain english, otherwise sorry (i'm Dutch).
| By Glen (dialup-209.245.232.104.dallas1.level3.net - 209.245.232.104) on Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 05:32 pm: |
Every alphabet is a "modulo" something, so turning characters into letters
and using them in ciphers is extremely simple. I'm not sure what you mean by mathematical
sum, however.
If you mean what I think you mean, I'd say no, but I'd like you to expand more on your
concept.
I remember that the answer to life, the universe, and everything, was reduced to the sum
of 42, so I guess it's all in how you ask the question. :-)
| By Ed N. (spider-tq041.proxy.aol.com - 152.163.201.61) on Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 05:46 pm: |
Wasn't it the ultimate answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything? Or was it "ultimate"???
| By Glen (dialup-209.245.232.104.dallas1.level3.net - 209.245.232.104) on Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 05:59 pm: |
It was clearly ultimate!
| By Glen (dialup-209.245.232.104.dallas1.level3.net - 209.245.232.104) on Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 06:03 pm: |
"...so turning characters into letters and using them in
cipher is extremely simple." I should hope so! What I meant to say was
"so turning letters into numbers and using them in ciphers..."
If I red my own riting mor often, I'd wouldn't never not mak such mistaks.
| By Roger Redding (user-33qs1lj.dialup.mindspring.com - 199.174.6.179) on Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 09:52 pm: |
"I remember that the answer to life, the universe, and everything, was reduced to
the sum of 42, so I guess it's all in how you ask the question. :-) "
Aha! So Douglas Adams killed Bates! I knew it all along!
Roger
| By Glen (dialup-209.245.226.215.dallas1.level3.net - 209.245.226.215) on Friday, September 29, 2000 - 02:22 pm: |
Actually I'm torn between Ford Prefect and Arthur Dent, but the Paranoid Android had motive. Trillion, well she's a babe, and maybe Bates moved in on her territory.
| By Ed N. (spider-to061.proxy.aol.com - 152.163.204.71) on Friday, September 29, 2000 - 09:06 pm: |
Marvin just hated life in general, but not enough to kill. He'd rather stick his head
in a bucket of water (he actually did that once).
Zaphod Beeblebrox, on the other hand, continually referred to Arthur Dent as an apeman,
did he not? Obviously, it was he who had little or no regard for human life since
he obviously did not respect Arthur Dent (even though he saved them from the missle fired
from Magrathea)! Zaphod must be Z!
Besides, anyone who would invent something like the Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster (the drink
that, when consumed, makes you feel like getting hit with a lemon wrapped around a gold
brick) has got to be a little out there anyway.
P.S.Did anyone else notice??? Zaphod and Zodiac both start with "Z," also have
the letters "a," "d" and "o" in common, and both have
six letters in their names! Couldn't it be more obvious???
| By Student 12345 (line07ef.kdt.de - 195.8.255.239) on Saturday, September 30, 2000 - 07:31 am: |
Hello,
I'm brandnew to the case, but I have an interesting book for Mr. Glen
Title: "An Eternal Golden Braid"
Author: Gödel, Escher, Bach
Basic Books (c)1979, New York
It will help you to understand some cipher/decipher problems.
(possibly)
Execuse my bad English, Im a Frenchman.
P.S.
In my humble opinion, especially this chapters here are very interesting:
XVIII,
XIX,
XX
| By Jake (Jake) (spider-tk074.proxy.aol.com - 152.163.206.209) on Saturday, September 30, 2000 - 05:32 pm: |
Student 12345 wrote:
"Execuse my bad English, Im a Frenchman."
That's interesting ... I thought that the ".de" IP suffix was exclusively
German.
--Jake
http://members.aol.com/Jakewark/index.html
"This is a Vichy Collaborator Speaking..."
| By Zoe Glass (Zoe_Glass) (max1-18.evansinet.com - 208.202.125.49) on Friday, March 23, 2001 - 04:43 pm: |
how many dimensions can one cipher have?
( a code with in a code)
could a 340 digit cipher contain as much information as a book?
and if so wouldn't you need to define sums?
| By Glen Claston (Glen_Claston) (crtntx1-ar5-036-189.elnk.dsl.gtei.net - 4.41.36.189) on Thursday, March 29, 2001 - 06:55 pm: |
how many dimensions can one cipher have?
( a code with in a code)
could a 340 digit cipher contain as much information as a book?
and if so wouldn't you need to define sums?
What are the odds of a monkey banging on a typewriter banging out Shakespeare's first
folio? Or consider the computer that can generate enough text to have generated everything
that could have been and had ever been written. It's not that far from what you're asking.
Technically the best functionality a 340 character cipher can have is to represent an
entire word with a single character, which means it could possibly represent 340 words
instead of 340 characters, an advantage of approximately 5:1 in cipher terms.
In terms of possible solutions, !340 is the top end, while language structure greatly
limits this. If you are asking whether or not rheams of solutions can be interpreted from
these 340 characters, the answer is an obvious - yes. The fact remains that only one
solution will stand all the tests, but until that happens we will continue to see rheams
of solutions and partial solutions.
GC