Zodiac cipher solution


Zodiackiller.com Message Board: Ciphers: Zodiac cipher solution

By Obaz (Obaz) (pool-63.52.144.160.dlls.grid.net - 63.52.144.160) on Wednesday, February 07, 2001 - 12:47 pm:

I have decided to send Glen my cipher solution. If Glen verifies the solution he may post it on this board with the understanding that the solution is copyrighted and can not be reproduced without my permission. If the cipher is not valid then Glen may give his reasons so no one uses the same system I used and may pursue other avenues.

By Tom Voigt (Tomvoigt) (ac853350.ipt.aol.com - 172.133.51.80) on Wednesday, February 07, 2001 - 03:03 pm:

You should ask permission of the person that owns the site and runs the board before you make too many plans.

By Obaz (Obaz) (pool-63.52.144.28.dlls.grid.net - 63.52.144.28) on Wednesday, February 07, 2001 - 04:14 pm:

Do i have yr permission for Glen to post the cipher solution on this board?

By Obaz (Obaz) (pool-63.52.157.168.dlls.grid.net - 63.52.157.168) on Wednesday, February 07, 2001 - 05:09 pm:

Tom, surely you jest. We have a cipher that hasn't been solved in over 30 years. I thought this board was too being new evidence and understanding to the Zodiac case. When I wanted to post the vin number I had found in the first cipher you said you would delete it. My question is why? Are you afraid someone else might hold the keys to this case? Graysmith was right. The Zodiac case has created obsessions in people that eventually ruin their lives. I will have no problem posting this cipher solution on another board. Too bad but so it goes...

By Tom Voigt (Tomvoigt) (ac987f95.ipt.aol.com - 172.152.127.149) on Wednesday, February 07, 2001 - 06:56 pm:

Obaz:
"When I wanted to post the vin number I had found in the first cipher you said you would delete it. My question is why?"

Posting a person's vehicle identification number is irresponsible and silly. Besides, what would the point be? How would it advance anything?

Obaz:
"If Glen verifies the solution he may post it on this board with the understanding that the solution is copyrighted and can not be reproduced without my permission."

If you have copyrighted material, and you want the material posted at my site, I am the person to contact.

By Alanc (Alanc) (spider-wl083.proxy.aol.com - 205.188.199.58) on Wednesday, February 07, 2001 - 09:28 pm:

Does the VIN in question belong to anyone under discussion here? Has it been checked out?

By Eduard Versluijs (Eduard) (erasmuscollege.nl - 194.109.60.77) on Wednesday, February 07, 2001 - 11:54 pm:

Obaz,

Why don't you make a website of it.
Your copyrights will be protected and you will not have to deal with someone else censoring you.
I'm interested!

-Eduard

By Tom Voigt (Tomvoigt) (aca56a53.ipt.aol.com - 172.165.106.83) on Thursday, February 08, 2001 - 12:04 am:

Eduard, what is this "censoring" crap you refer to?
Publishing a person's vin number, based on an amateur's interpretation of a code that's already been "solved" countless times, is an absurdity.

I don't give a rats ass if the vin number is tracked to Arthur Leigh Allen, it ain't gonna get posted here.

By Eduard Versluijs (Eduard) (i0482.pvu.euronet.nl - 194.134.165.227) on Thursday, February 08, 2001 - 05:19 am:

Tom, I don't say you are not right in not posting a person's vin number on your website.
If you find it a absurdity to let it post at your site that is your good right, you are this site's moderator. Anyway it is censoring (even for a good cause like not framing innocent people for the crimes or not getting sued).
If Obaz wants to publish what he found (and wants to take the blame for it if something happens) he must make a website of it.
I was just giving him another option to tell his story, I wasn't bashing at you.
Tom, relax will you!

-Eduard

P.S. If I produce crap I do that in a toiletbowl. I will try not to litter on your site.

By Obaz (Obaz) (pool-63.52.143.247.dlls.grid.net - 63.52.143.247) on Thursday, February 08, 2001 - 05:52 am:

Tom, I have been visiting this website since it's inception. Hell, I may have been your first visitor. You have even denied that I furnished you the real name of Andrew Todd Walker. It seems you have selective memory. Over the years I have watched your site grow and mature but there has been one constant. That constant has been your ego and arrogance. I see copyrighted material all the time on your site. What chaps your ass is I did not come directely to you with my cipher solutions. Yes, this is your site and you have put a lot of work into it. I give you that much credit but you seem to lose more and more of your objectivity as time passes. I am confident that time will reveal that Allen is and never was the Zodiac. This shall be my last posting on your board. As for the vin number in the first cipher. If you remember correctly the last line was never solved. Yes, the vin number has been associated with a particular individual. Good luck on your site. OBAZ

By Tom Voigt (Tomvoigt) (acacf315.ipt.aol.com - 172.172.243.21) on Thursday, February 08, 2001 - 11:51 am:

Obaz,
1) If you're seeing copyrighted marerial "all over" my site, you have vision problems.
2) I've known the real name of "Walker" since my first conversation with Avery in 1995, long before my site was launched.
3) I don't care about your "cipher solution." You are just one of thousands of people that think they have broken a Zodiac code. You can't all be right. Ask Glen how much I care about the codes. The answer will be "not a lot."

By Obaz (Obaz) (pool-63.52.157.217.dlls.grid.net - 63.52.157.217) on Saturday, February 10, 2001 - 05:18 pm:

My solution was a bust.

By Kevinrm (Kevinrm) (cx206582-c.mesa1.az.home.com - 24.21.120.22) on Sunday, February 11, 2001 - 01:12 am:

Regardless, it would have been interesting to see. I do hope that you have not given up or been discouraged.

By Terri H (Terri) (dhcp065-024-048-076.columbus.rr.com - 65.24.48.76) on Friday, March 30, 2001 - 01:00 pm:

Haven't seen anything on maybe disecting the cipher into quadrants maybe and flipping them... noticed how some characters are backward, some forward. Since he used carbons, he could have possibly manipulated the cipher this way. Maybe the machine couldn't decipher because the machine had to be outsmarted by something like this?

By Terri H (Terri) (dhcp065-024-048-076.columbus.rr.com - 65.24.48.76) on Friday, March 30, 2001 - 09:49 pm:

Also, if the words don't come along side by side as they did in the previous ciphers, it may be
a puzzle within the cipher itself - a word search puzzle.