Postage Stamps Used (not licking related)
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|By Scream187 (hse-quebeccity-ppp3499535.sympatico.ca - 126.96.36.199) on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 09:41 pm:|
Everyone looked at the letters, even at the envelopes but I dont know how many persons
looked closely at the stamps on the letters beside the number of stamps used (extra
So I decided to try taking a closer look at the stamps... And I noticed that in most of the letters he used the same stamp... (Stine and Dripping pen card of exemple)
From the scans its impossible to tell whats written beside that its a 6 cent stamp and that it has a male on it.
So I searched around for stamps pictures and I finaly found which one it is and a better version of it which I uploaded at the following adress for those interested.
I'm not sure if this is usefull but I havent seen it mentioned before so there it is. I dont know anything about stamps but I'll say what i've found about this one.
*It has the #1284 (not clue what this means)
*It's part of the Prominent Americans Series which apparently was popular
*First day of issue was 29 June 1966
*It's a 6 cent FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT postage stamp. Rossevelt was the 32nd president of the USA from 1933 to 1945.
|By Scream187 (hse-quebeccity-ppp3499535.sympatico.ca - 188.8.131.52) on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 10:07 pm:|
Ok now the belli letter stamp
It's a 1 cent THOMAS JEFFERSON (3rd US president, 3/4/1801 - 3/3/1809) postage stamp, it was released in 1968 I think. (I'm not 100% sure about the release date of the ROOSEVELT stamp either, it needs to be double checked)
It's also part of that Prominent Americans Series of stamps...
It has the #1278
heres a better picture of it
Any comment? If you know anything about any of the stamps he used please write it here.
|By Scream187 (hse-quebeccity-ppp3499535.sympatico.ca - 184.108.40.206) on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 10:21 pm:|
Mext is the Exorcist letter stamp
It's an 8 cent Dwight D. Eisenhower postage stamp. Eisenhower was the 34th US president from 1/20/1953 - 1/20/1961
Stamp number is 1394.
Apparently it is "a beautiful Match and Medicine type Proprietary Stamp". And no i have no clue what the hell that means...
All the others pictures of it I found are mis perforated... the one zodiac used was not... I dont know if this means anything
here's a better picture of it
Also apaprently its not part of that prominent serie like the 2 other ones...
|By Scream187 (hse-quebeccity-ppp3499535.sympatico.ca - 220.127.116.11) on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 11:05 pm:|
Citizen letter now...
ok this is not an actual stamp that u lick but a post office generated one or something like that...
It's a Samuel Adams Patriot 8 cent stamp...
apparently first day of issue was December 8 1973, eventho it seems to read 18... not sure...
heres a "better" picture of it
|By Scream187 (hse-quebeccity-ppp3499535.sympatico.ca - 18.104.22.168) on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 11:23 pm:|
Halloween card turn...
Full credits goes to Ray and Sean for this one because without their help I would have had hell of a hard time figuring this one out...
This is an apollo 8 stamp issued May 5, 1969 and it has the number #1371
A better picture of it can be found here:
Only the red phantom one left to figure out and it will be really hard I think, I got no clue what it is and the scan is really bad... Any help on that would be nice... I'll post when I find out what stamp it is...
until then, I'd like to hear what you guys think
PS: Tom, if you have a better version of that stamp (red phantom one), please contact me at email@example.com
|By Scream187 (hse-quebeccity-ppp3499535.sympatico.ca - 22.214.171.124) on Sunday, August 24, 2003 - 11:24 pm:|
sorry its firstname.lastname@example.org
|By Scream187 (hse-quebeccity-ppp3499535.sympatico.ca - 126.96.36.199) on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 01:07 am:|
Ok I finaly figured out what the Red Phantom Stamp is thanks to a bigger scan from tom.
It's part of the Universal Postal Union 1974 set. (#1530-37)
It was first issued June 6 1974
I dont have more info on the one that was used by Zodiac specificaly
Here's a better picture of it
Thats the stamps from all confirmed zodiac letters...
So comments are welcome...
|By Tom_Voigt (12-231-193-32.client.attbi.com - 188.8.131.52) on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 01:15 am:|
Good job, Scream. I'm sure we'll have plenty of thoughts...
|By Estelle Cotton (69-144-209-203.client.bresnan.net - 184.108.40.206) on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 01:21 pm:|
I want commend you for your original thinking. I have never heard anyone mention the stamps that were used. Excellent research.
|By Ed Taylor (cvg-65-29-208-206.cinci.rr.com - 220.127.116.11) on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 04:53 pm:|
Nice research. However, I must admit, I don't know what you've found is supposed to mean. Is there some sort of pattern in what stamps Z chose to use? Are the stamps traceable as to who bought them? I wouldn't think so. It is my guess all kinds of postal inspectors looked over the enevlopes as to were the letters (what post office) they were mailed from, but I don't know of anything else we can learn from which stamps Z used. Just my 2 cents.
|By Wendi (Wendi) (dpc6682009026.direcpc.com - 18.104.22.168) on Monday, August 25, 2003 - 07:46 pm:|
As with many ideas, I have no idea what this will mean to the case, but I commened
It seems alot of us attempting research have gravitated toward different aspects of Zodiac; some are working on the ciphers, you chose work on the postage and envelopes,and I have gravitated toward the letters themselves.
I think there's a reason people a drawn to a topic no matter how difficult it may be based on their talents. Good work! Just an idea...would this potentially rule out any fake letters or cards?
Thank you for sharing, and as soon as my mind finishes processing my info, i'll share it with you as well.
|By Sandy (Sandy) (12-233-90-84.client.attbi.com - 22.214.171.124) on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 02:14 am:|
Today we have a choice of many stamps,I don't think back in the 60's we had a choice.Weren't they all Presidents back then ? In 69 and 70 it was FDR ,71 Abe L,74 DDE. Could the double postage also be a clue to 2 men ?
|By Scream187 (hse-quebeccity-ppp3497158.sympatico.ca - 126.96.36.199) on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 12:49 pm:|
Well thanks, school started back a few hours after I was done searching for those
stamps so I didnt have much time to think about what it could mean yet.
But it does seem strange that most stamps used were the same except for a few ones... It's understandable for the ones he didnt sign as Z. But it is very weird for letters like the belli one because the letter before and the letter after were using the same stamp, which change for the belli one?
Also I suggest taking a look at some of the stamps from a few letters discared as hoaks because you could be surprised.
So yea, I'll probably have more time to think about this next weekend, until then i'd like to hear some more of your ideas about the stamps he used.
|By Mike (Oklahoma_Mike) (188.8.131.52) on Tuesday, August 26, 2003 - 07:31 pm:|
The Apollo 8 stamp is interesting in that Apollo 8 was launched just a few hours after the killings at Lake Herman road. If I recall, the lauch time was early in the morning and a killer excited from a kill who stayed up all night would have seen or heard the launch on tv and radio, it was everywhere. If he was hoping to listen to news reports of his crimes on the local stations he would have heard Apollo 8 coverage, maybe helping push his 'news' to second place.
|By Muskogee (Muskogee) (209-223-48-21-dyndsl.oplnk.net - 184.108.40.206) on Wednesday, August 27, 2003 - 07:30 pm:|
Scream, great job! Thanks for sharing that with us.
|By Douglas Oswell (Dowland) (pool-141-151-89-229.phil.east.verizon.net - 220.127.116.11) on Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 09:26 am:|
Which well-known suspect would have gotten worked up over a pioneering moon flight? The same one who, in a later period, made a statement with his postage stamps, perhaps?
|By J Eric (J_Eric) (dialup-18.104.22.168.dial1.losangeles1.level3.net - 22.214.171.124) on Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 11:07 pm:|
Eisenhower was not a Match and Medicine Proprietary Stamp. Those were made many years
ago and placed on bottles as revenue stamps. Somewhat akin to the revenue stamps still
found today on boxes of playing cards, cigars, and liquor. I don't know where you got the
description from. The stamps in your link are errors (valuable) but most of the DDE ones
were perforated quite correctly. I suspect you were getting descriptions out of an auction
or sales catalogue for stamps.
All of the stamps used were rather commonplace, could be gotten at any post office.
I was always more interested in the ANGLES they were pasted across some of the envelopes but apparently that means nothing either. My conclusion is the stamps mean nothing, but, for those who wish to keep sleuthing, help yerselves.