I am CRACKPROOF
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: Letters: I am CRACKPROOF| By Lapumo (Lapumo) (p48.as1.dungarvan1.eircom.net - 159.134.234.48) on Monday, October 23, 2000 - 05:29 pm: |
According to Graysmith on Oct6 1970 the Cronicle
recieved a file card with a cross drawn in blood. In this message the author used the term
I am Crackproof. This apparently was assumed to be authentic at first but later
"filed as another copycat effort".
Moving forward to March 15 1971 the Los Angeles Times gets the "Blue Meannies"
letter in which the Author States "Like I have Always Said I am Crackproof.
It seems a unlikely Two different people would use the same phrase.
Is this the Graysmith Factor?
Do we have 2 authentic Zodiac Letters?
Do we have 2 Fakes?
Might this phrase be something to look for in the 340 Cipher? given Zodiac Always said???
| By Oscar (Oscar) (pool0935.cvx4-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net - 209.178.149.170) on Monday, October 23, 2000 - 11:16 pm: |
Is it not possible that one copycat, if you subscribe to this particular belief, wrote
both of the letters in question? It takes a peculiar sensibility to do this in the first
place, and the copycat phenomenon is not, to my understanding, as prevalent as Hollywood
would have us believe. By the way, a copycat would be most concerned with using the same
phrases as the bona fide killer for legitimacy, while a copycat who wrote several letters
would be concerned with internal consistency. To neglect either would be to defeat the
purpose of copying in the first place. To my knowledge these are regarded as authentic
Zodiac letters, but I may be wrong. The only fake Zodiac letter that I am aware of is the
infamous 1978 missive. You have probably been "Graysmithed". I'm sure there were
many other crank Zodiac letters- in fact, it would be hard to imagine it not happening-
but I don't believe they would have been given much, if any publicity.
Oscar.
p.s. A lot of us are going to be "Graysmithed' when his sequel arrives in the
bookstores later this year. We can only hope that he does a better, more thorough job this
time around.
p.p.s. Penn in 2004. Ride the wave!
| By Lapumo (Lapumo) (p153.as1.virginia1.eircom.net - 159.134.234.153) on Sunday, October 29, 2000 - 07:59 am: |
Oscar,
It naturally would appear that the police were in error in assuming the Oct6th letter to
be the work of a copycat.However one would think the arrival of the second might have
prompted them to revise their original assumptions.
Assuming the first to be authentic, would it not make it as important as the Stine shirt
as far as blood evidence was concerned?.
It may have enabled the police to tie Zodiac to a definite victim.The fact that this
possibility was not covered ( at least not that I have seen)
is why I raised the subject. As far as "like Ive Always said I am Crackproof" is
concerned, well he obviously did'nt at least not in his messages
unless it is a phrase used in his 340 cipher.
| By Ray N (Ray_N) (user-38ldf21.dialup.mindspring.com - 209.86.188.65) on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 06:28 pm: |
Board:
I am curious as to opinions more members here as to whether the file card was authentic.
Does anyone know what caused the card to be called into question? Was it examined by
Morrill, or others?
Also, I notice that it does not appear reproduced anywhere that I can find it? Has anyone
ever seen a reproduction of this card and if so, where?
I find some interesting aspects to it that relate very closely to other Z mailings that I
personally find unlikely to be things that a copycat would pick up on and be apt to
duplicate.
Thanks everyone.
Ray
| By Douglas Oswell (Dowland) (143.philadelphia01rh.16.pa.dial-access.att.net - 12.90.17.143) on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 01:42 am: |
Ray, I've got a facsimile of the card at http://home.att.net/~mignarda/FKcardx.gif. I believe you can see the original somewhere in the FBI files, but I'm not sure where.
| By Tony (Mahalo) (hnllhi1-ar1-4-65-059-039.hnllhi1.dsl-verizon.net - 4.65.59.39) on Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 02:45 am: |
This card, though without handprinting, sure seems to have that smartass, Zodiac 'tone', like in most of his handwritten letters.
| By Howard Davis (Howard) (66.59.239.29.lcinet.net - 66.59.239.29) on Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 08:43 pm: |
Ray,
I personally believe that the 10/5/70 FC or file card is a Zodiac.It is noted that
"crackproof" is used in the FC and the same word is employed by Zodiac
3/13/71,"Like I have always said I am crackproof."We need not take Zodiacs
"always said" literally in the sense that he wrote this expression in the past
in several letters.In studying his letters we find that he utilizes perimeter concepts.For
example,he wrote that he killed the couple on LHR during "Christmass"for the
20th of December.He says that he killed the cab driver over "by Washington st. and
Maple st."
I think the the FC card "crackproof" statement was set in stone for Zodiac and
it was a bellwether for declaring he was "crackproof" for all time.He may have
meant to say 'Like I have said I am crackproof' and he got carried away and used the word
"always."Crackproof is a neat tie in to the 10/5/70 FC.
A hole punch was used(like on the Pines card )and the FC as a FYI.For sure the holes on
the FC were to represent victims which numbered 13.
This links to the Halloween card(which has 13 victims pictured as eyes) sent just a short
time later 10/27/70.
Two missives in the SAME month was not unlike Zodiacs past send times.Two communications
were sent in 11/8/9/69.April saw two on the 20/28 of '70.July we have two on the 24/26
followed by TWO in October of 5/27/70.
Both the 10/5/70/27 missives were BRUSH LETTERED (as was the Pines card).
Z,I believe, is referring to Bates;SB couple(we know they 'fought';Lass(?)and some other
unknown victms when it says"Some of them Fought it was Horrible."We do know
Bates/SB male(Z or not),as the Confession says,'fought.'
"The pace isn't any slower."It says in the first Z cipher "I will not give
you my name as you will try to SLOW down or stop my collecting of slaves."
Another parallel is "What is the price tag now?"In the 4/20/70 missive he
says"...how much money you have on my head now."
Both the 10/27/70 and the FC or file card were pasteups(as was the Pines and the 12/10/69
SAC "want Zodiac"Bee pasteup).
Other communications were in the 1 A postal zone (as the 10/5/70 card was)such as the
three letters 4/31/69;6/26/70.
The FC starts with "Dear Editor" a Zodiac trademark.
These are just thoughts,but there is enough to at least suspect it was a Zodiac card.
I don't think a test of the glue used along with the ink on all three missives under
discussion will solve the issue of common authorship because Z is known to change his
various methods.If they are all the same it would be a confirmation.I don't know if the
blue felt ink used in the Zodiac missives(except on the cardoor at LB)has been tested for
common chemical properties or not!
| By Howard Davis (Howard) (66.59.239.29.lcinet.net - 66.59.239.29) on Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 08:59 pm: |
I forgot to mention that the FC 10/5/70 (BDs B Day)stamp is identical to the one used
on the "authentic"10/27/70 Halloween card and it is tilted in Zodiac fashion.The
"S.F." is used which is an old Zodiac like designation for San Francisco.Of
course he abbreviated the city in other ways too.
The section of pasteup that starts with "There are reports..."is upside down
just like in the SAC Bee pasteup of 12/10/69.Inversion of statements is used in the occult
for various reasons.The inverted bloody like cross is suggestive of the occult also.
I think Z gave some clues to link communications that would be in doubt, like using the
same stamps on both Oct.'70 missives,etc.
| By Howard Davis (Howard) (66.59.239.29.lcinet.net - 66.59.239.29) on Sunday, August 04, 2002 - 09:04 pm: |
Very sorry to post again- both sides(rare)of the file card can be seen on Jakes This is the Zodiac speaking,which, of course,is linked on this site.