Zodiackiller.com Message Board: Zodiac Media: Zodiac Trivia
|By Ryan Olesin (Ryan) (d150-160-190.home.cgocable.net - 220.127.116.11) on Friday, June 21, 2002 - 09:51 pm:|
My score was 16/20.
|By Tom Voigt (Tom_Voigt) (12-224-186-54.client.attbi.com - 18.104.22.168) on Friday, June 21, 2002 - 10:00 pm:|
Wow...that's cool. Thanks for the link, Ryan.
I got 17 out of 20, but a few of the questions are a bit off.
|By Douglas Oswell (Dowland) (162.philadelphia08rh.15.pa.dial-access.att.net - 22.214.171.124) on Friday, June 21, 2002 - 10:16 pm:|
Some of the questions appear to be predicated on erroneous information.
|By Tom Voigt (Tom_Voigt) (12-224-186-54.client.attbi.com - 126.96.36.199) on Friday, June 21, 2002 - 10:20 pm:|
That's what I meant.
|By Ryan Olesin (Ryan) (d150-160-190.home.cgocable.net - 188.8.131.52) on Friday, June 21, 2002 - 10:24 pm:|
Although I got the Zodiac Killer in New York one correct, I found it ambiguous.
Yes, the "Zodiac Killer" appeared in New York.
No, because it was not the San Francisco Zodiac.
IMO both answers are correct.
|By Ed N (Ed_N) (acc2dfb5.ipt.aol.com - 184.108.40.206) on Saturday, June 22, 2002 - 12:36 am:|
I missed three also... gotta hit them books again!
|By Douglas Oswell (Dowland) (62.philadelphia05rh.15.pa.dial-access.att.net - 220.127.116.11) on Saturday, June 22, 2002 - 01:16 am:|
This exercise is akin to asking a group of experienced physicians to take a
"test" on anatomy:
1. The neck bone is connected to the:
a. thigh bone
b. ankle bone
c. foot bone
d. heel bone
|By Tom Voigt (Tom_Voigt) (12-224-186-54.client.attbi.com - 18.104.22.168) on Saturday, June 22, 2002 - 01:32 am:|
You might be right, Doug. But it's still neat-o!
|By Peter H (Peter_H) (pool-141-154-40-92.bos.east.verizon.net - 22.214.171.124) on Saturday, June 22, 2002 - 07:48 am:|
18 of 20. I missed the "speeding" and Panzarella, in both cases choosing none of the above.
|By Mike (Oklahoma_Mike) (126.96.36.199) on Saturday, June 22, 2002 - 09:14 am:|
I got 16/20 but would debate the professor if this were back in school. The question about the killer resurfacing in New York put "Zodiac Killer" in quotes. In that case, yes, a "Zodiac Killer" did resurface in New York. The question regarding Allen's speeding ticket is debatable, but has anyone else ever heard the knife used at Lake B described as a "bayonet"?
|By Ryan Olesin (Ryan) (d150-160-190.home.cgocable.net - 188.8.131.52) on Saturday, June 22, 2002 - 09:16 am:|
Mike, I believe Graysmith called it a bayonet on Tom's video.
|By Ryan Olesin (Ryan) (d150-160-190.home.cgocable.net - 184.108.40.206) on Saturday, June 22, 2002 - 09:31 am:|
I noticed Doug is the only one who has not revealed his score...
|By Douglas Oswell (Dowland) (232.philadelphia-18-19rs.pa.dial-access.att.net - 220.127.116.11) on Saturday, June 22, 2002 - 09:50 am:|
I can't reveal my score because I didn't make it through the test. I got to about question 13, then got distracted when my son came into the room to mooch some money off me. After giving him a stern lecture on the necessity of thrift and the virtues of frugality I turned back to the computer to find that my test session had timed out. Of the 13 questions I answered, I got two wrong. Since I now know the correct answers to those two, and since the answers to the others were right in front of me, there's no way I can go back and get objective results. Based on what I've seen, I can postulate 17 out of 20.
|By Valentine Smith (Valentinesmith) (adsl-78-162-234.gnv.bellsouth.net - 18.104.22.168) on Saturday, June 22, 2002 - 12:19 pm:|
I scored a 14. But, in all fairness, I kinda "cheated" 'cuz I knew the "bayonet" question was rigged after reading here. I would've answered hunting knife, so I guess my REAL score woulda been 13...
|By Chris Bohn (Chris) (adsl-65-65-246-237.dsl.elpstx.swbell.net - 22.214.171.124) on Sunday, June 23, 2002 - 02:00 am:|
i actually got 15/20. Missed green river killer question. missed most of the "Zodiac" in new york and letters questions because he didnt call himself ZodiacII but Zodiac, so technically..........anyway, the bayonet thing is debatable, and I Knew the panzerella question was a trick.....not fair.
|By Douglas Oswell (Dowland) (97.philadelphia-18-19rs.pa.dial-access.att.net - 126.96.36.199) on Sunday, June 23, 2002 - 07:55 am:|
The 1978 letter is also debatable. I'm surprised there wasn't a question about Zodiac's projector--you know, the one he used to write on Hartnell's car.
|By Tom Voigt (Tom_Voigt) (12-224-186-54.client.attbi.com - 188.8.131.52) on Sunday, June 23, 2002 - 11:47 am:|
Doug, don't forget Zodiac's enlarger!
Strange how the person who put together the trivia page knew about Santo Panzarella (a new name to most), but included both the 1978 letter and the speeding ticket as facts.
|By Ed N (Ed_N) (acc05f25.ipt.aol.com - 184.108.40.206) on Sunday, June 23, 2002 - 11:23 pm:|
I had wondered about those questions... who is the guy who put the quiz together anyway?
|By Peter H (Peter_H) (pool-141-154-40-92.bos.east.verizon.net - 220.127.116.11) on Monday, June 24, 2002 - 10:02 am:|
Oh yes: cheating, or at least a form of conscious test strategizing, is essential to a
high score. You have to glean from the choice of answers the level of misinformation
behind many of the questions. Some of the answers have to be deliberately wrong to score
the "correct" answer on the test.
On the "bayonet" issue, however, I belive the Berryessa weapon could reasonably be considered a bayonet from its general description: especially size and the rivets. I think the M-1 or M-1 garand carried just such a weapon. Scott?
|By Scott Bullock (Scott_Bullock) (spider-ntc-td073.proxy.aol.com - 18.104.22.168) on Monday, June 24, 2002 - 01:51 pm:|
I scored 15 of 20 however, as noted, some of the questions are incorrect or misleading.
Oh well, at least I'm being honest. Thanks for the link, Ryan! That was pretty cool!
Peter, I'm pretty sure that the bayonet used on the M1 Garand had a handle that was completely enshrouded. In other words, no visible rivets. Unfortunately, I've never owned one though I would love too. George S. Patton called the M1 Garand "the best battle implement ever devised." Personally, I'd prefer the M1A.
Anyway, the point is, it certainly was a long, narrow-bladed knife of some sort that was used at Berryessa. I doubt that it was a bayonet though. Such a device -- riveted together -- certainly wouldn't withstand the rigors of hand-to-hand combat, in my opinion.
|By Mike (Oklahoma_Mike) (22.214.171.124) on Monday, June 24, 2002 - 11:12 pm:|
I hold in my left hand as I type an actual bayonet for the Springfield bolt/M1 Garand
rifles, as smuggled out of Camp Carson in October 1945 hidden
in the boot of my father to be. It was one issued
to him duriong latter months of the war.
The blade is 16.5 inches long and 7/8-inch wide. THe handle is 405 in long covered with wood for 3.5 of those inches. The wood is held in place by 2 COUNTERSUNK SCREWS ATTACHING TO ROUND BOLTS COUNTERSUNK INTO THE WOOD ON THE OTHER SIDE. aT AGLANCE THEY RESEMBLE RIVETS. There were other
bayonets availible, of course, different countries, etc. but this would have been the most common in US availibility. I think some of them were still being used on a few such rifles and maybe the M-14. The overall length of over 20 inches makes it disctinctive so it does not look like a hunting of butcher knife. We must all re-read those accounts to get description of the "Knife".
|By Scott Bullock (Scott_Bullock) (coral.tci.com - 126.96.36.199) on Tuesday, June 25, 2002 - 12:31 am:|
Thanks for the information, Mike. I have a bayonet that belonged to my father which
was designed for the M14. Its handle is wrapped in leather, much like an older K-bar.
There are no rivets that are visible on the handle. Sounds to me, based upon Mike's
description, that the bayonet used at LB may very well have been of the type that was
issued for the M1.
|By Peter H (Peter_H) (pool-141-154-40-92.bos.east.verizon.net - 188.8.131.52) on Tuesday, June 25, 2002 - 08:52 am:|
Take Your Pick
|By Scott Bullock (Scott_Bullock) (spider-ntc-tc013.proxy.aol.com - 184.108.40.206) on Tuesday, June 25, 2002 - 09:30 am:|
Excellent find, Peter! Thanks! I stand corrected; it looks like the knife used at LB probably was a bayonet of some sort. Unless, of course, the knife had been made by hand.