Vallejo Timing


Zodiackiller.com Message Board: Theories: Vallejo Timing

By Lapumo (Lapumo) (p173.as1.virginia1.eircom.net - 159.134.234.173) on Sunday, December 24, 2000 - 03:34 am:

A long shot I know,but...I had always wondered since reading Graysmith's book about the car leaving and returning to the scene of the Ferrin killing.I was reminded again reading on Jake's site-Quote "the car pulled off at high speed back to Vallejo.After about 5 minutes,the brown car returned to the parking lot".Could it be that Zodiac actually returned home,be it to get a gun or Flashlight? The fact that he left at all suggests he was not ready to kill initially.Again one is reminded of an answer given by Tom, that Ferrin and Mageau went out there to buy drugs.Did the killer know they would be still there when he got back?Whatever there's something peculiar about it.

By Douglas Oswell (Dowland) (31.philadelphia01rh.16.pa.dial-access.att.net - 12.90.17.31) on Sunday, December 24, 2000 - 06:01 am:

I've always postulated that Zodiac went away in order to give the victims time to actually become engaged in what he thought they were in the process of doing. It's better "symbolic justice" that way.

By Realtor (Realtor) (1cust251.tnt20.hou3.da.uu.net - 63.29.198.251) on Sunday, December 24, 2000 - 08:36 am:

Or maybe it wasn't TIME yet

Realtor

By Lapumo (Lapumo) (p104.as2.dungarvan1.eircom.net - 159.134.234.104) on Sunday, December 24, 2000 - 11:00 am:

Both may be right,but would he risk loosing the opportunity? Just a thought.

Ps.MERRY CHRISTMAS to ALL

By Jake Wark (Jake) (spider-wg022.proxy.aol.com - 205.188.196.27) on Sunday, December 24, 2000 - 11:12 am:

I always figured he was just checking for oncoming headlights, but I'm on the wrong coast to verify geographic hypotheses like this one.

--Jake
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"This is the Zodiac Speaking..."

By Tom Voigt (Tomvoigt) (ac8a4ab4.ipt.aol.com - 172.138.74.180) on Sunday, December 24, 2000 - 11:23 am:

I'd like to see proof that this first car was the same car that returned five minutes later.
Hell, I'd like to see proof that there even was a first car.

By Jake Wark (Jake) (spider-mtc-ta081.proxy.aol.com - 64.12.105.56) on Sunday, December 24, 2000 - 02:44 pm:

Tom, are you going to tell us that you'll accept a 20 year old Mageau ID but not a 10 minute old Mageau account of the crime itself?

--Jake
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"This is the Zodiac Speaking..."

By Tom Voigt (Tomvoigt) (ac9ee1a4.ipt.aol.com - 172.158.225.164) on Sunday, December 24, 2000 - 04:34 pm:

There would be no way for Mageau to know for sure if that first car was the same as the one that returned with the shooter, unless Mageau got the license numbers of both.
I seem to recall Mike's account of the shooting didn't always include that first car, but I am probably mistaken.

The only thing I accept about Mageau's ID of Allen is that it happened.

By Jake Wark (Jake) (spider-mtc-ta082.proxy.aol.com - 64.12.105.57) on Sunday, December 24, 2000 - 09:02 pm:

It's an interesting thought, anyway. Enough cars came through the park that night that it seems like a pretty popular spot, so I guess there's no reason to be sure it was in fact the same car. I was really referring to your skepticism regarding that first car.

--Jake
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"This is the Zodiac Speaking..."

By Hurley (Hurley) (spider-tl031.proxy.aol.com - 152.163.207.186) on Tuesday, December 26, 2000 - 12:53 pm:

I thought the car returning story was odd. It was as if killing was an after thought. Where did this account come from? Is that what Mageau reported to the police?

It doesn't make sense unless it wasn't the right time or he was distracted by something like another car or person.

By Jake Wark (Jake) (spider-th051.proxy.aol.com - 152.163.213.66) on Tuesday, December 26, 2000 - 02:09 pm:

Speaking of mysterious cars in Vallejo, does anyone have a detailed description of the pre-attack incident on Lake Herman Road? I'm referring to the young couple who saw a car pass them, stop, then slowly back toward them. It's a pretty creepy story, but the only newspaper article I could find on it was one paragraph that didn't name names or give specifics.

--Jake
http://members.aol.com/Jakewark/index.html
"This is the Zodiac Speaking..."