13 Slaves and The Afterlife
Zodiackiller.com Message Board: Theories: 13 Slaves and The Afterlife
|By Chalandra (Chalandra) (tsway2-61.gate.net - 188.8.131.52) on Sunday, January 14, 2001 - 12:52 pm:|
Here is a new theory that I think is probably right. It sure fits a little too much.
An EisenHOWER stamp was on the envelope I believe The Exoricist that had a clock with a message saying mail early in the day. I know that Zodiac tried to make us believe he mis-spelled hour for HOWER in one of the letters. I believe he was trying to get us to come up with Eisenhower. I will tell you why in a moment.
One the Citizen envelope was a Samuel Adams stamp.
One the Belli envelope was a Thomas Jefferson stamp.
All of this links to where my suspect is from and that is Pennsylvania.
There was a letter that mentioned golf so I've been told but I haven't seen it. Eisenhower was an avid golfer. Eisenhower retired on a farm in Gettysburg, PENNSYLVANIA.
Samuel Adams signed The Declaration of Independence which is located in Independence Hall in Philadelphia, PENNSYLVANIA. Also there was a man by the name of BUTTON Gwinnett from Georgia that signed The Declaration of Independence.
Thomas Jefferson married a lady by the name of Martha Wayles SKELETON the halloween card? Thomas Jefferson also signed The Declaration of Independence and he was a Virginia man.
Franklin D. Roosevelt was from New York and started his 4th term in 1944. 1944 is mentioned many many times of events that happened that year. 1944 is the year my suspect was born.
Now we have the 13 slaves which is actually the 13 original colonies where slavery began.
New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Maryland, Delaware, Virginia, North and South Carolina, and Georgia.
My suspect has been in every one of these states and is now in Georgia which is the last of the 13 states. The afterlife Zodiac talked about would have to be either Maine or Florida which is the only 2 states left on the east coast. My guess is Florida which is surrounded by water and my suspect has a home there.
There have been killings up and down the east coast, could Zodiac have done alot of these? There was a serial killer in New York and one in Atlanta, Georgia they said were Zodiac copy cats.
What I don't understand is where all of this is leading, what will happen next and why California.
Maybe somebody can help me out here and add to this theory.
I have also came up with other things (hints) Zodiac gave in his letters and cards......
Exoricist = Blairsville, Pa
Pen Card = Pennsylvania or maybe William Penn
Crackproof = steel = Pittsburg, Steelers
cid = Sidman, Pa
Confession letter = "She was young" Youngstown,Pa
Billiard Cue = Que Creek, Pa
I have others but haven't researched them enough to actually give my theory.
Tell me what you all think about this.
|By Hurley (Hurley) (spider-wo083.proxy.aol.com - 184.108.40.206) on Sunday, January 14, 2001 - 02:32 pm:|
Hi Chalandra. You have made some very interesting associations. I don't know who your
suspect is so I really can't ad anything to it.
Does your suspect have the naval association like they claim Zodiac does have? You also mention golf? What was that about?
The Philadelphia Naval Shipyard, the oldest naval yard in the country has recently been closed. The area surrounding the base includes a naval hospital, a park called FDR park and the FDR golf course.
|By Chalandra (Chalandra) (tsway2-38.gate.net - 220.127.116.11) on Sunday, January 14, 2001 - 02:41 pm:|
I haven't had a chance to go any further with the Roosevelt thing.
Somebody had asked me my theory on the golf course which they said Zodiac mentioned in one of the letters that had the 3 part ciphers. I haven't seen that letter or else don't remember it saying anything about a golf course. Since I was on the Eisenhower thing, I thought I would mention about him being an avid golfer.
|By Chalandra (Chalandra) (tsway2-38.gate.net - 18.104.22.168) on Sunday, January 14, 2001 - 02:47 pm:|
I forgot to answer your question Hurley...
My suspect has told several lies as far as the military is concerned. He verbally said once about 4 years ago that he was in the Marines. I saw it on paper about 3 months ago where he claims he was in the Army. I don't know if any of that is correct. I am getting very limited as to how to find out further info on him without physically going there and doing research.
There was another thing that I found that I could add to my theory about the 13 colonies and slaves. The Taurus thing could be taken as Ram Island in Massachusetts.
|By Esau (Esau) (cc129455-a.rcrdva1.ca.home.com - 22.214.171.124) on Sunday, January 14, 2001 - 03:02 pm:|
Blue Rock Springs is a public golf course. I've played there a couple of times.
|By Terri H (Terri) (dhcp065-024-048-076.columbus.rr.com - 126.96.36.199) on Sunday, April 01, 2001 - 09:52 am:|
This probably is just a rehash but the Egyptians believed in burying people alive with royalty as to have slaves in their "afterlife". I do not know about what other cultures OR cults out there that may have adopted similar ideas and incorporated them into their own religious- personal beliefs/practices.
|By Zoe Glass (Zoe_Glass) (max1-22.evansinet.com - 188.8.131.52) on Monday, April 02, 2001 - 08:33 am:|
chalandra your methodology is insane , but your conclusions seem to have some merit.
i'd really like to see more of your clue findings.
along that line could penn= garthe penn? could cid = cubic inch displacement?
|By Howard Davis (Howard) (ont-cvx1-93.linkline.com - 184.108.40.206) on Monday, May 21, 2001 - 02:09 am:|
Ron Hubbard Founder of Scientology said "Men are my slaves...Elemental spirits
are my slaves."Manson said "People are my slaves.Susan Aitkins said Manson
believed"...souls released in death by their killers would be his
slaves."Aliester Crowley, the black magician, said that "men are slaves...I am
not of the slaves that perish... "Zodiac said certain people were his
When asked in court what the Family members were considered to be Barbara Hoyt(see her letter to Bruce Davis on my site www.zodiacmurders.com)replied "Slaves."FYI
|By Oddball (Oddball) (slip-32-103-46-189.al.us.prserv.net - 220.127.116.11) on Monday, May 21, 2001 - 01:28 pm:|
Thanks for the "Slaves" post, Howard. If Zodiac's
"slaves/paradice" spiel was indeed a reference to occult beliefs, I wonder just
how deeply the killer was involved in occult practices. Was he right in the thick of
things, or did he just observe and borrow some references?
By all accounts the Bay Area was a pretty strange place in the late sixties, so it is quite possible that some of the weirdness rubbed off on Z without his being directly involved...Just a thought.
|By Classic (Classic) (spider-wn084.proxy.aol.com - 18.104.22.168) on Monday, May 21, 2001 - 04:56 pm:|
Chalandra: Please e-mail me. Classic
|By Curt (Curt) (22.214.171.124) on Friday, November 02, 2001 - 02:38 pm:|
Terri H wrote, . . . the Egyptians believed in burying people alive with royalty as
to have slaves in their "afterlife". I do not know about what other cultures OR
cults out there that may have adopted similar ideas and incorporated them into their own
religious- personal beliefs/practices
In my mind, Terri's observation above re a possible source for Z's statement about "collecting slaves for the after-life" is the only one I have read about on here that makes the most sense (but that is assuming that Zodiac didn't just simply make up the idea himself and/or that he may have never heard of the Egyptian practice of "collecting slaves at all).
It would be interesting to hear from someone who knows a thing or two about those ancient Egyptian burying practices.
|By Lapumo (Lapumo) (p51-252.as1.clm.clonmel.eircom.net - 126.96.36.199) on Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 06:14 am:|
Watched a film last night called "Training Day".
Denzel Washington,Ethan Hawke.I think its the one Washington won an academy award for. The plot revolves around a rookie cop(played by hawke),and his first day on the Job with rogue cop(Washington)
In one scene in the film, Washington tries to get Hawke to shoot a dealer after a drugs bust( the only purpose of which was to rob him of 4 million dollars).Anyway, Washington Quote "Do you know that when you kill someone while on the job they will become your slaves in the afterlife"!
Wonder where the inspiration for this line came from!
|By Scott Bullock (Scott_Bullock) (spider-ntc-tc064.proxy.aol.com - 188.8.131.52) on Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 07:58 am:|
Lapumo, what are you saying? That Denzel was the Zodiac? Just kidding! Interesting observation!
|By Lapumo (Lapumo) (p51-251.as1.clm.clonmel.eircom.net - 184.108.40.206) on Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 08:30 am:|
OOPS, let me tell you what I'm not saying, that Quote should have read "while on duty" not "while on the job". Don't want to confuse anyone.